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In reply to the discussion: I really can't believe what I just watched [View all]PATRICK
(12,229 posts)is still our national forum and despite all the persistent and consistent evidence as soon as we tune in the sh*t starts flowing. All of our discussions can include Hannity and O'Reilly etc. because they are there, intruding smack dab in the middle of vital discourse and the national conversation.
They shouldn't be there for any number of critical reasons. Romney should not be there. They are all related to the same problem. We "occupy" the bleachers. Obama enters there ring. We take them seriously without being able to take them on.
They self destruct. A little help along the way would be nice.
Obama prepares as all candidates, indeed as many previous GOpers would have for the "debate" per se knowing some of the media game board rules. However even though it was totally predictable, how does one intrude into the rude clown self destruct mode?
This is entirely consistent with the GOP primaries this year, the ultimate low in shameful displays daring to compete for the presidency. legitimacy, weight, respectability- to clowns, haters, idiots. Romney COULD do what he did best(barely) then, play the clown game then bury everyone in money lies ads and fraud. With media acclamation.
But set all that aside, even the media hangover of the Romney "content" and abominable "style" in a softly cautious aftermath of pimping for evil.
What is a special interest doing moderating presidential debates? Parties can let their special interests host and influence the selection process if they think that works for them, but the nation is denied fairness when the full choice is displayed. The bottom line is a polarized even contest means mega bucks flowing into media coffers. Either that stops or they should have no say in the debates in programming or refereeing(before, during or after). Not control of cameras, not the mediators, not anything because they have a built in money motive. That, nakedly shown, even before you get into the small clique of media owners and their ruinous effect on truth in media.
In the Superbowl at least two teams have to play by the same old rules whatever the framing even pre-eminence of the media show all around it. In political debates- and candidates have always been warned- once you start altering the game rules themselves for partisan advantages then the media can dominate everything, even self-righteously. Hypocritically disgusting on so many levels.
And a debate? How does it compare to any form of that cerebral sport? Stop accepting these stupid and ruinous media shows, this surrender to their feeble claws and simply establish boring unchangeable rules even moderators must adhere to and let the media hover around critiquing any violations or gaming of the system which they must air freely, without ads, commentary, or profit.
Dems who at any time think they can overcome by sheer quality or cleverness in playing the deceitful games need to give it up. The other side can present a batshit crazy used car salesman from China pissing on the American flag as a viable choice and sane lawful and competent Dems will always be a threat to their kingdom.
This whole election is a disgrace though Obama himself is not. The GOP fraud, A-Z, insane shameless, ruthless and unrelenting. The media stooges, presenting crap as gold and Obama as a target. The waste of money, rigging and prevention of votes. the sheer volume(both senses) of destructive lies more monstrous than any conceivable parody of real political skills(which you don't need when you have raw power to deprive people of power).
Though the outcome is certain you have to be uneasy, but you needn't be stupid either. The vast populous will not wake up en masse, just enough to bat away the crazy repugnant bad choice. Even people voting for Obama, even Obama himself will not get the big picture or the whole truth. You can win battles, wars and still fail as a civilization in frighteningly short order.
What you don't have to do is respect and feed the corporate media.