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BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
17. He is paying a price
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 01:29 AM
Oct 2012

When Ryan did that, he earned a permanent tag of Lyin' Ryan. Even many people who aren't very heavily into politics have heard about that guy's reputation.

After the MSM euphoria about that debate work off (it only took 10 hours), the real story is how much Romney lied. That will stick with him. And in the process of lying and flip-flopping, he created several new problems. He now is clearly on record for killing Medicare for anybody under 56. He created a real mess by singling out Big Bird as the only example of government spending he would cut for sure. And he has everybody asking questions about his tax plan now.

And that is on top of the 47% problem that is still huge.

Team Obama understood they didn't have to engage on all those issues because they have a big lead in the electoral college and they have 4 debates to play this out.

By the time this is done, it will be clear that although Romney got credit for a win in the first debate, that debate will prove to be a setback, not a gain.

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I was callng it flim-flammery, or snake oil salesmannery SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #1
yes it's what's going on in Ma right now with Brown sasha031 Oct 2012 #6
His 1st statemnt defund PBS sasha031 Oct 2012 #2
what a great observation cilla4progress Oct 2012 #10
romney was a liar before the debates, and was still a liar after the debates. /nt still_one Oct 2012 #3
Hey! He's Lying for the Lord! DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #19
How do you counter it ? former-republican Oct 2012 #4
Simply stating what the opponent is doing would do the trick. Marr Oct 2012 #16
So this should be the moderator saying something like that not the President former-republican Oct 2012 #18
He is paying a price BlueStreak Oct 2012 #17
Would a strong debate moderator stop it ? former-republican Oct 2012 #5
Perhaps their party's nickname should be GGOP KansDem Oct 2012 #7
PBS; 'Betrayal of Democracy' showed upi402 Oct 2012 #8
I know someone who does that all the time. silverweb Oct 2012 #9
Ha, I had the displeasure of divorcing one of them. cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #22
That must have been interesting. silverweb Oct 2012 #25
Thanks. Me too. He's now County Chairman of a Political Party in a Blue State. cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #33
What is this "won" shit? Wednesdays Oct 2012 #11
Thought this was some kinda weird dressage thing... Blue Owl Oct 2012 #12
Sounds like the perfect strategy for Republicans. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #13
If this is true why is he declared the "winner" flamingdem Oct 2012 #14
If the loser of the debate was determined by who lied the most, it would definitely be bullshit Mitt Incitatus Oct 2012 #15
Pretty fancy name for "lying your ass off." pamela Oct 2012 #20
this is the essence of the whole repuke party right now and bbgrunt Oct 2012 #21
His eyes were blinking like a fast spinning pulsar Warpy Oct 2012 #23
More at rationalwiki pokerfan Oct 2012 #24
I'm very sure he did not win. Cnn's wrap up was disgusting. busterbrown Oct 2012 #26
We have several long-term trolls who specialize in this technique. Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #27
How would that technique work on DU? Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #42
And that's how you get swing votes folks! flyguyjake Oct 2012 #28
How did he "win?" treestar Oct 2012 #29
Your right... flyguyjake Oct 2012 #31
Have any of the pundits tried to inform anyone else treestar Oct 2012 #32
He only appeared to win pokerfan Oct 2012 #34
Do we know this for sure? treestar Oct 2012 #35
We will soon know pokerfan Oct 2012 #40
Mitt won in much the very same way that the Imperial Japanese Navy won the Battle of Pearl Harbor. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #38
Wow, I'd never heard that before davidpdx Oct 2012 #30
New term to me but very apt description of the debate. Thanks kr PufPuf23 Oct 2012 #36
Mz Palin tried it marions ghost Oct 2012 #37
Mitt Romney is nothing but a con artist. reformist2 Oct 2012 #39
In know this strategy well ThoughtCriminal Oct 2012 #41
Excellent explanation. hifiguy Oct 2012 #43
"Speed-lying" n/t ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #44
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