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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Sat Dec 26, 2020, 02:56 PM Dec 2020

Mike Pence Cannot Block the Certification of Joe Biden's Victory When the Senate Formally Counts [View all]

Electoral College Votes on Jan. 6th

President Donald Trump’s quest to overturn the results of the 2020 election have been rejected at every turn, resulting in an unprecedented string of court losses that have left the former “Apprentice” host and his supporters to pursue increasingly impractical efforts to remain in power. Chief among the latest exercises in futility is Trump imploring Vice President Mike Pence to prevent ratification of Joe Biden’s victory when the Senate counts the Electoral College votes next month.

The Electoral College formally selected Biden as the next U.S. President on December 14 when each state’s electors publicly cast their official votes. There is no mechanism for reversing these votes, and on Jan. 6, the House and Senate will meet to count those votes. Under the 12th Amendment, Pence is constitutionally mandated to preside over the joint session of Congress which will accomplish the task.

Trump on Wednesday retweeted a theory from one of his supporters calling for Pence to reject the certificates of votes from Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, falsely claiming those states did not “receive a constitutionally permissible slate of electors.”

Unfortunately for Trump, legal experts say Pence has absolutely no authority, constitutional or otherwise, to prevent ratification of the electoral college votes. The Constitution states that Pence “shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.” The “shall” in the provision is an imperative command, unambiguously requiring the act be completed, making Pence’s role merely ceremonial.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mike-pence-cannot-block-the-certification-of-joe-bidens-victory-when-the-senate-formally-counts-electoral-college-votes-on-jan-6th/ar-BB1cfgXE?li=BBnb7Kz
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And if for some reason pence doesn't want to perform that duty, it changes nothing Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #1
It's all past silliness now treestar Dec 2020 #2
SHALL is the operative word, elleng Dec 2020 #3
Yes and the oath of office which Trump repeated PCIntern Dec 2020 #4
Just what I'm thinking too. n/t Myrddin Dec 2020 #33
So sick of this man-baby Joinfortmill Dec 2020 #5
The world's biggest loser is also the world's biggest baby...why doesn't this POS grow up and SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #6
How nasty are the tweets going to be when Pence does not do Trump's bidding? nt Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #7
Maybe the "base" will finally let the republican party go to pasture. BComplex Dec 2020 #34
I think the GOP is on its last legs. The base is the Trump party, not GOP. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #35
Gaming Rules Lawyer kurtcagle Dec 2020 #8
Very astute! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #29
He only votes in the case of a tie FakeNoose Dec 2020 #9
And, since he was the Republican candidate for VP, MineralMan Dec 2020 #10
There is nothing that would prohibit him from voting, even if there were a conflict of interest StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #15
The only vote the Senate would take would be on a challenge to a electoral slate and Pence onenote Dec 2020 #28
It would be 'against the rules' certainly. Possibly unconstitutional. But how long would it take wiggs Dec 2020 #11
Just for the sake of a theoretical arguement, Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #12
exactly-- and how much pressure is Dump putting on him to do that? LymphocyteLover Dec 2020 #13
He has no power to accept or reject any electoral votes StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #16
Sure, and this administration Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #18
Again. He has no power to accept or reject the vote StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #22
Thank you, I can read. Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #23
Lol. "Thank you I can read!". You go Mr. Bill! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #30
Yes, it would be inpecedented. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2020 #27
Yes, could see them doing something for a momentary pause. Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #31
Worst case: President Pelosi. Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2020 #17
I can't believe how many people here don't understand this SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #14
And at this point neither would surprise me. n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2020 #19
I think what some people are asking is, who, specifically, would stop him if he tried ecstatic Dec 2020 #36
Pence & the Fly are between a Cha Dec 2020 #20
Can he stomp his feet ToxMarz Dec 2020 #21
He could, and then someone else would have to do it. subterranean Dec 2020 #24
Idiots Roy Rolling Dec 2020 #25
You have got to be kidding. Little, meek, frightened Mikey Pence standing up to the world? BarbD Dec 2020 #26
No but he can accept, in fact has to accept, Voltaire2 Dec 2020 #32
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