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51. No contradiction there

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Sat Dec 26, 2020, 10:54 PM

Dec 2020

Reconciliation is for spending/taxing/debt. It can't be used to create new programs like the ACA or a public option. Either required 60 votes (or a minority that didn't filibuster). A tax cut can pass with 51 votes.

Many of the ACA weaknesses were caused by that very issue. We lost our 60th vote as it was working through the conference process aligning House/Senate versions... so the House was forced to go back and pass the previously-passed Senate version without changes (because a changed bill could no longer pass the Senate).

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