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OneGrassRoot

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39. Is it? I thought so at first as well...

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 12:10 PM

Oct 2012

I didn't think this was a big deal at first. So what if he brought a cheat sheet and that's how he kept focused on which lies he was going with the night of the debate? The lies and his overly aggressive behavior were enough to turn me off further. But then I read this:

"The rules of the presidential debates are clear about not bringing outside notes and presidents and aspirants have followed the rule for decades."

Think about it. Lying is hard work. Keeping multiple lies straight, remembering which lie you're telling to which group of people...that's gotta be exhausting. Yet he seems energized by it. He's shown a stunning lack of integrity repeatedly throughout his campaign.

This is one more telling aspect of him as a human being and, if true, it's really ugly and dishonorable.

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Cheatgate (R) going viral [View all] Berlum Oct 2012 OP

once again, romneys big moment, down in flames of disgrace and humiliation. seabeyond Oct 2012 #1

Particularly Intriuging, Ma'am, To See Local Channels Picking Up On It The Magistrate Oct 2012 #6

i didnt know. and thanks for the info. yes. and you betcha i am going to be sharing seabeyond Oct 2012 #12

Tell them it was Obama that had the cheat sheets first... kracer20 Oct 2012 #82

lol lol. clever. first i have to find out now, hankerchief or seabeyond Oct 2012 #97

LOL wryter2000 Oct 2012 #102

after careful scientific examination I have determined that there is a grantcart Oct 2012 #132

K&R tk2kewl Oct 2012 #2

Let's call it by its proper name: HankyGate BlueStreak Oct 2012 #128

Oh dear, that brings to mind Mister Hanky Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #170

One CBS station is everywhere? bluestateguy Oct 2012 #3

...at least 2 CBS stations, for what it's worth Lucy Goosey Oct 2012 #5

I remember. n/t timber84 Oct 2012 #7

Chicago, Boston and DC... that I've seen... that's quite a start. hlthe2b Oct 2012 #16

Reported here in Philly too - CBS3 BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #25

In a few days, he'll be saying "Cheating was completely wrong!" KansDem Oct 2012 #4

When Mitt Romney says he's sorry formercia Oct 2012 #65

Naw . . . Richard D Oct 2012 #94

In a few days... no one will remember or care. -..__... Oct 2012 #140

We will remind them. ywcachieve Oct 2012 #141

Not with that attitude, missy! n/t demwing Oct 2012 #173

still waiting comservindependant Oct 2012 #171

Wait for it demwing Oct 2012 #174

The OP is from CBS News. Bump. n/t silvershadow Oct 2012 #8

CBS, yes. CBS News? sl8 Oct 2012 #60

whoops, my bad. I saw the CBS2 thingy at the top, and perused it, but didn't catch that. Mea culpa silvershadow Oct 2012 #62

It wasn't obvious. sl8 Oct 2012 #119

Author listed in OP has bought it back as well... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #172

Just when you think he's sunk as low as he can go! polichick Oct 2012 #9

Oh no, there is no depth Myth Romney cannot go to politicaljack78 Oct 2012 #81

Daily Beast has it too Lucy Goosey Oct 2012 #10

NO ONE AS FUSSY AS ROMNEY THROWS HIS HANDKERCHIEF DOWN ONTO A SURFACE jsmirman Oct 2012 #11

Now that is an excellent point! Most excellent. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #21

Thanks jsmirman Oct 2012 #58

I did have him pegged as requiring barrels of hand sanitizer on hand at all times. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #64

Interestingly jsmirman Oct 2012 #79

cspan nycbiscuit Oct 2012 #113

Murphy's Law for everyone except for, PBS. They may have it (Big Bird's Revenge). DhhD Oct 2012 #131

I'm noticing a trend here.....low post count, and the opinion that this "won't go anywhere" Th1onein Oct 2012 #149

and that hankie is folded and smaller than what he threw on the podium 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #156

Baby terrorizing! gkhouston Oct 2012 #114

He wants to fire them jsmirman Oct 2012 #126

Hanky?? Did I miss something? I saw the vid; it's clearly paper, BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2012 #136

He actually does wipe his mouth with a hankie right before the closing statements jsmirman Oct 2012 #137

ah, I see....now I'll definitely have to have another look BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2012 #139

Jsmirman, that hanky BOUNCED a bit! Th1onein Oct 2012 #148

I think so, too, but not being a dry cleaner... jsmirman Oct 2012 #150

whatever he threw on the podium 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #157

One other thing may be worth noting (or not.) Ship of Fools Oct 2012 #191

Who doesn't jsmirman Oct 2012 #192

Depends if you think the prez was "turning the other cheek." Ship of Fools Oct 2012 #193

Do you think it looks like a hanky? cilla4progress Oct 2012 #53

You can't stack a hanky in a sheaf of papers upon exit and nothing went back in his pocket. cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #70

The hanky may be under what looks like the unfolded paper. polly7 Oct 2012 #105

That's the stiffest hanky I've ever seen tularetom Oct 2012 #67

He clearly picked up a sheet of paper from the podium ronnie624 Oct 2012 #188

Viral phenomena no longer depend on corporate media (R) Berlum Oct 2012 #13

Yeah, now anyone can make it up Coyotl Oct 2012 #118

Is that what you think we're doing? Making shit up? Th1onein Oct 2012 #151

Yeah, that pretty much nails it. Coyotl Oct 2012 #175

So YOU, in all of YOUR wisdom, are here to tell US what the "real" issues are? Th1onein Oct 2012 #180

Yeah, that pretty much nails it. Coyotl Oct 2012 #183

That's strange. When I first came here, I had two sign ins, and they made me take one off. Th1onein Oct 2012 #184

Obama's performance was good, period. Coyotl Oct 2012 #185

Well, rightwingers are saying it was not, and that we are making excuses. Th1onein Oct 2012 #187

Spread the word... City Lights Oct 2012 #14

Republican Romney Busted Berlum Oct 2012 #17

Love this ColumbusLib Oct 2012 #69

Here's slow-motion video: OneGrassRoot Oct 2012 #15

That can't be a handkerchief. It's Cyrano Oct 2012 #18

it looks like a PDA wraped in a hanky to me. It even bounces. n/t nebenaube Oct 2012 #22

Yeah looks more like a 17" iMac! whistler162 Oct 2012 #166

Deliberate hiding move Bobbie Jo Oct 2012 #40

Notice how he brings it out as he is walking to the podium and looks forward while taking it out. RBInMaine Oct 2012 #130

I could be wrong...But does he look directly at the camera .... zellie Oct 2012 #83

Stiffest damn "hankie" I've ever seen. nt tpsbmam Oct 2012 #133

Romney's soon going to be bragging about the cheating and lying andym Oct 2012 #19

It's part of his ritual GladRagDahl Oct 2012 #20

If PDC debate rules are secret than we can't be sure what's allowed and what is not but nc4bo Oct 2012 #28

do you prefer pepperoni? or sausage? nt grasswire Oct 2012 #32

Looks like a pepperoni lover to me. nt Th1onein Oct 2012 #154

The description of this "ritual" at the link doesn't match what he did BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #33

He doesn't need to throw something onto the podium before he can . . . freedom fighter jh Oct 2012 #34

He could write "Dad" with the pen and paper that are already placed on the podium Chorophyll Oct 2012 #37

Huh? dooner Oct 2012 #45

There's nothing in there about a thick wad of .... something TalkingDog Oct 2012 #49

there was more than Dad on that paper 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #66

Maybe that paper contained his Dad Generic Brad Oct 2012 #142

BWAAAAHAHAHA! nt tblue Oct 2012 #147

He should write DAD on a piece of paper everytime someone mentions Tax Returns. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #78

Word! Brother Buzz Oct 2012 #122

Dad? StarryNite Oct 2012 #88

Not the ritual wryter2000 Oct 2012 #100

That is just messed up. A grown man needs to write "Dad" so he won't do gkhouston Oct 2012 #115

I think that this "Dad" thing is another false narrative, like Bush being a rancher. Th1onein Oct 2012 #155

I can never read a reference to Dubya's "ranch" without thinking of the maddiemom Oct 2012 #176

You're lucky. Th1onein Oct 2012 #181

Have dad embroidered on the drapes. lol 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #160

Note paper was on the lecturn for him to write notes (as Obama did) - no need to bring outside paper George II Oct 2012 #110

And, according to the article you linked, the ritual does NOT include his actions Th1onein Oct 2012 #153

He can do that with the provided pen and paper Panasonic Oct 2012 #158

FWIW - i was watching very closely at the start of the debate hedgehog Oct 2012 #23

I'm just sitting here laughing. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #24

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #36

Excuse me? Are you talking about the President of the United States? Chorophyll Oct 2012 #38

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #26

Nope and is not the topic of THIS particular discussion. nm nc4bo Oct 2012 #30

Yes it is. Because this is nonsense distraction. raina starling Oct 2012 #31

Is it? I thought so at first as well... OneGrassRoot Oct 2012 #39

And so is your post. BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #41

No - it speaks of your candidate's character or lack thereof. nc4bo Oct 2012 #44

This one's a troll MgtPA Oct 2012 #50

Correction. Was a troll. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #73

Huh? malaise Oct 2012 #52

The ones around tombstones jsmirman Oct 2012 #152

When you cheat you do one important thing. donqpublic Oct 2012 #63

distraction from what? 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #159

This has been discussed abundantly in other threads on this site. nt Chorophyll Oct 2012 #42

Ba da BUMP, BUMP-BUMP hifiguy Oct 2012 #75

i just posted it on facebook rdking647 Oct 2012 #27

In the words of the Great George Takei, hifiguy Oct 2012 #29

Wow, you must have a thrilling incarnation. raina starling Oct 2012 #35

Is the MSM reporting it? if not it will not affect anything. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #43

These days, if something goes viral on the net, there's a good chance that the MSM Chorophyll Oct 2012 #46

Exactly. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #47

Yes they are dooner Oct 2012 #54

Except that the "reporter" here didn't bother to research it BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #59

Am I getting this right? It's okay to take notes during the debate (it mentions Obama leaving his gateley Oct 2012 #48

No...you cannot bring notes into the debate. RagAss Oct 2012 #51

Got it. You know, as fucking stupid as Romney is, I'm still surprised he gateley Oct 2012 #57

Stupid shit . . . fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #72

(several) Someone(s) send the CBS Links to Rachel, Ed, Lawerence... Rosco T. Oct 2012 #55

been messaging them on FB! cilla4progress Oct 2012 #91

suit pocket question riverwalker Oct 2012 #56

So Mitt goes BACK to the podium and gets his "notes" and gives them to one of his sons. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #68

why is he struggling riverwalker Oct 2012 #86

Next time, they should debate naked. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #93

Because you might not want breast pockets jberryhill Oct 2012 #127

So that's how he got through Harvard. Nt Incitatus Oct 2012 #61

Cheatgate (R) going viral The CCC Oct 2012 #71

Nice try ... the rules are you don't bring notes...even Love You Ann...or papers...even blank cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #74

It won't matter to his faithful, just as it didn't matter when Bush wore a wire rtassi Oct 2012 #76

We'll be chatting about it in The Dallas Morning News w8liftinglady Oct 2012 #77

Thank you to the person who caught this Politicub Oct 2012 #80

I am not defending him but I did see his wipe his brow with an handkerchief when the kimbutgar Oct 2012 #84

Would someone who had make-up on . . . Richard D Oct 2012 #98

When he wiped his brow later, did he take something from the podium AleksS Oct 2012 #104

If you watch more on c-span you can clearly see him unfolding the paper afterwards. DrummerMan Oct 2012 #85

This picture shows the note paper that were ok by the rules. What he takes out of his pocket patrice Oct 2012 #87

ALL EYES ON PAUL RYAN .... Orbit1 Oct 2012 #89

I saw that TuxedoKat Oct 2012 #90

Someone watch the debate again TatonkaJames Oct 2012 #92

I thought I remember seeing him pick up some papers at the end neohippie Oct 2012 #95

And he attempted to put them inside his inside jacket pocket - both sides - then handed them to sad sally Oct 2012 #125

Well, he cheats at family games EC Oct 2012 #96

I've read elsewhere.... boyedav1969 Oct 2012 #99

I missed something what did he do? ArnoldLayne Oct 2012 #101

Sorry folks Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #103

analysed.....sort of riverwalker Oct 2012 #106

plus the size of what he threw on the podium 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #161

It bounces off the podium and also retains its flat shape. That ain't no handkerchief Quixote1818 Oct 2012 #143

That is blatant. Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #107

I don't get >> "the President walks off stage, leaving his notes behind for an aide.."??? 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #108

NO! There was paper already ON the lecterns for them to take notes during the debate. George II Oct 2012 #112

Ah! Makes sense. Thanks. ~nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #116

Didn't mean to seem to be yelling at you, but this whole thing really has me angry. George II Oct 2012 #120

das cool. I didn't take it that way. 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #121

Watch as he leaves spedtr90 Oct 2012 #109

Come on Mitt..write the shit on your hand like Sarah did tjwash Oct 2012 #111

Before next debate, Mitt needs to be patted down by TSA 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #117

President Mitt "Cheat-To-Win" Romney? I don't think so. Blue Owl Oct 2012 #123

Reminds me of George Bush the pictures after the debate DisabledAmerican Oct 2012 #124

This was predicted, long, long ago by two bright young women. GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #129

And the "hanky" couldn't have notes on it? wtmusic Oct 2012 #134

I see it WAS a very STIFF hanky. File cards? n/t DemzRock Oct 2012 #194

Yup. It was a hanky so over-starched that it stood up straight. jerseyjack Oct 2012 #135

It also bounces off the podium if you watch closely. Quixote1818 Oct 2012 #144

Not only that laundry_queen Oct 2012 #190

Hmmm... madamesilverspurs Oct 2012 #138

Can you say-- geologic Oct 2012 #145

Read the Update. snot Oct 2012 #146

I still don't n/t 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #162

After reviewing the evidence.... Berlum Oct 2012 #163

Rachel Maddow called it a kooky theory last night... Cooley Hurd Oct 2012 #165

Additionally, there was a news article (ABC?) yesterday that reported they'd done Native Oct 2012 #168

She should look up the meaning of theory. It is a weird "hypothesis" Coyotl Oct 2012 #186

Republicans CHEATING during ELECTION season? IMPOSSIBLE!! Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #164

Mitts "zinger" list. Historic NY Oct 2012 #167

Bush cheated too sellitman Oct 2012 #169

What am I missing? zentrum Oct 2012 #177

that's no hanky Slit Skirt Oct 2012 #178

from the website cited by the OP Bucky Oct 2012 #189

TYT showed there was a hankerchief but it must have been a... DemzRock Oct 2012 #179

smh swishyfeet Oct 2012 #182