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The Magistrate

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16. Citing Wikipedia, Ma'am, is Abject Confession Of Ignorance
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:12 AM
Oct 2012

Tossing one liners at me on this subject is extremely foolish. It is one of my subjects, Chinese history in the twentieth century being of especial interest to me for many years.

It is quite true that fire-bombings and blockade killed great numbers of Japanese, and quite possible the continued lethal pressures of 'air supremacy' ( which in fact meant wholesale bombing, and harrying by fighter-bombers strafing anything that moved ) would have had the desired effect short of invasion, but of course that is one of the things you were asked whether you favored in preference to the use of the first two atomic bombs. You have not answered, merely made an extreme 'left pacifist' posturing, which carries no weight at all. You would be much better served, by the way, to look into the thing from the view of the Japanese, the government structure, and balance of powers, military and civilian, there. It will be much more illuminating, and more useful to understanding, than after the fact comments by U.S. military figures, statements that are in fact bound up with inter-service rivalries in the immediate post-war years, or have little substantiation. The idea of LeMay, for instance, expressing moral qualms about 'killing Japs' hardly rings true to anyone familiar the record of the man during the war, and in the first decades of the Cold War.

So on this sideline, we have the following as a record:

You do not answer what should have been done about Japanese aggression in China, a passage of extraordinary atrocity shocking the conscience of the world.

You do not answer what course you would have found superior to the use of atomic bombs in 1945, and indeed, display abject ignorance of the subject.

On the question of the present day, let us see how you do.

Do you feel Iran should be allowed to develop a nuclear weapons capability?

Do you believe Iran is seeking such capability?

Do you believe economic sanctions are an appropriate measure to discourage Iran from developing a nuclear weapons capability?

If such sanctions are effective, is this a good thing or a bad thing?

If you feel sanctions are not a proper course, what do you consider a proper course?

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somebody's attacking the rial, are they? hmm, wonder who it could be. for those folks who keep HiPointDem Oct 2012 #1
What is your speculation? dkf Oct 2012 #2
it pretty well tells you in the article, doesn't it? The US and its allies are purposedly HiPointDem Oct 2012 #3
I was hoping that wasn't what you were going to say. dkf Oct 2012 #4
they didn't just start doing it; our wonderful media just decided to *report* what they were HiPointDem Oct 2012 #5
Juan Cole: Iran Bazaar Strikes signal Misery, not Sanctions ‘Victory’ pampango Oct 2012 #8
oh, bull. food stamps are subsidies, welfare and housing allowances are subsidies, farm subsidies HiPointDem Oct 2012 #9
Ahmadinejad blames currency collapse on enemies "abroad and within". The latter - the religious pampango Oct 2012 #10
"plenty...examples...hyperinflation caused by governments that print..not tied to war...etc" HiPointDem Oct 2012 #17
it's the sanctions veganlush Oct 2012 #6
Worked really well against Japan. dkf Oct 2012 #7
So What Should Have Been Done About Japanese Aggression In China, Ma'am? The Magistrate Oct 2012 #11
Well if we didn't have Japan who could we have tested nuclear weapons on right? dkf Oct 2012 #12
So You Favor Slow Starvation Of Civilians, Or Mass Casualties In Invasion, Ma'am? The Magistrate Oct 2012 #13
They killed enough Japanese with conventional weapons and you know it. dkf Oct 2012 #15
Citing Wikipedia, Ma'am, is Abject Confession Of Ignorance The Magistrate Oct 2012 #16
Since there is an election on, we can't conduct a real, live war, MadHound Oct 2012 #14
Iran is very similar to Egypt, demographically speaking. hifiguy Oct 2012 #18
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