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whopis01

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93. No he doesn't - that's not the endgame here

Tue Dec 29, 2020, 05:33 PM

Dec 2020

He isn't attempting to shoot down this bill.
He wants to delay it.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/28/bernie-sanders-filibuster-delay-defense-veto-override-451697

McConnell wants the vote on the CASH act (increase to $2000 payments) to be delayed past the Georgia runoff election.
That allows Loeffler and Perdue to campaign on the message that "we are going to get you the money Trump promised" in order to get elected, but then vote it down after the election.

Sanders is basically trying to force McConnell to have to bring that bill to a vote prior to the NDAA bill.

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If McConnell won't bring $2000 payments to the floor, Bernie will object to the defense bill. [View all] kpete Dec 2020 OP

K & R Mrs. Overall Dec 2020 #1

Good malaise Dec 2020 #2

Kickin' Faux pas Dec 2020 #3

Nice idea ! OnDoutside Dec 2020 #4

Go... JoeOtterbein Dec 2020 #5

Amazing Cirque du So-What Dec 2020 #6

Someday rest of party will realize marlakay Dec 2020 #7

My thoughts exactly. Good old Bernie has our backs. RussellCattle Dec 2020 #10

Well, a majority voted for Kamala Harris as VPE. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #13

In Some Circles You're Not Viewed as a Progressive if You Don't Support Medicare for All n/t Indykatie Dec 2020 #17

Correct. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #18

I am sure she will support the increased amount as the house has questionseverything Dec 2020 #73

She's the one who sponsored (cosponsored by Sanders and Markey) the initial bill in May... PunkinPi Dec 2020 #80

Wonderful! questionseverything Dec 2020 #81

Absolutely this. Thank you Bernie! nt Doremus Dec 2020 #15

Yes yes luv2fly Dec 2020 #61

Nah...they won't Bettie Dec 2020 #84

From your lips (or fingertips as it may be) luv2fly Dec 2020 #91

The rest of what "party"? George II Dec 2020 #78

Look below. Plenty of it. paleotn Dec 2020 #52

Good! SheltieLover Dec 2020 #8

Good move. This is why it is so important that people like him are there to cause good trouble. onecaliberal Dec 2020 #9

Bernie took a lot of flack here, gab13by13 Dec 2020 #11

Bernie rso Dec 2020 #12

Not about tRump luv2fly Dec 2020 #28

This x 1000 Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #40

Donnie is half way out the door.... paleotn Dec 2020 #53

The best way to get the bill to the floor BGBD Dec 2020 #14

+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 2 AmyStrange Dec 2020 #20

Go Bernie BlueNProud Dec 2020 #16

What will this accomplish? Will any votes be changed? comradebillyboy Dec 2020 #19

If enough Democrats follow Bernie's lead... AmyStrange Dec 2020 #21

Not many Democrats will follow Bernie's lead. comradebillyboy Dec 2020 #22

Can't really argue with that, but... AmyStrange Dec 2020 #25

I'm not being a pessimist, I want the Senate to comradebillyboy Dec 2020 #27

You're logic makes sense, and I agree, but... AmyStrange Dec 2020 #31

The $2k would be great but I doubt Mitch will bring it to the floor. comradebillyboy Dec 2020 #33

That's exactly why this is a good time to do it... druidity33 Dec 2020 #65

Ya know, sorry to have to say this, but if that KPN Dec 2020 #63

Keeping Perdue and Loeffler in DC a week before the most important Senate election in our History nt liskddksil Dec 2020 #57

The repubs against money for peops questionseverything Dec 2020 #67

It is a delaying tactic. Not an attempt to change the eventual vote. whopis01 Dec 2020 #92

How many Senators does it take to override a veto? 66 or 67? AmyStrange Dec 2020 #23

67 DeminPennswoods Dec 2020 #26

Thanks, buddy. AmyStrange Dec 2020 #32

Sure DeminPennswoods Dec 2020 #36

No he doesn't - that's not the endgame here whopis01 Dec 2020 #93

Got it, and... AmyStrange Dec 2020 #95

Lucy football. Just how ignorant does one have to be in order to fall for that? SammyWinstonJack Dec 2020 #97

I agree with your assessment - but whopis01 Dec 2020 #99

Does Sanders oppose the environmental provisions Democrats put in the defense bill? Hortensis Dec 2020 #24

This is about forcing a vote on 2000. Voltaire2 Dec 2020 #77

THANK YOU BERNIE luv2fly Dec 2020 #29

No, let's not. That would hurt us in the 2 key Senate races, pnwmom Dec 2020 #42

He's not a Dem. paleotn Dec 2020 #50

Yeah, tell that to the Republicans who are constantly conflating Bernie and the Dems. pnwmom Dec 2020 #66

It passed the house under pelosi's leadership questionseverything Dec 2020 #72

Nothing about the 2,000 is a bad idea. I think threatening the defense budget now is a bad idea. pnwmom Dec 2020 #74

We will override the veto right after the vote for a higher survival check questionseverything Dec 2020 #76

am i missing something? Takket Dec 2020 #30

Problem is the vast majority of Democratic senators comradebillyboy Dec 2020 #35

so the leader of the democratic senate caucus supports this as do most democratic senators questionseverything Dec 2020 #100

he would be voting no on a unanamous consent, which means it will take a little longer, but just vsrazdem Dec 2020 #44

Bernie rso Dec 2020 #48

We get it, you don't like Bernie luv2fly Dec 2020 #59

Bernie rso Dec 2020 #64

We will over ride the defense bill after we vote on giving every soldier 2 grand questionseverything Dec 2020 #68

+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 2 AmyStrange Dec 2020 #70

not only do the troops still get paid, but the pay increase happens automatically this time, so your Celerity Dec 2020 #83

Bernie rso Dec 2020 #85

There will be backpay if things are delayed & resolved JonLP24 Dec 2020 #86

Bernie rso Dec 2020 #51

you're not missing anything Skittles Dec 2020 #62

McConnell wants to pass this under unanimous consent. If one Senator objects, then they have to.... George II Dec 2020 #79

Leader schumer is on board questionseverything Dec 2020 #82

Yes. It isn't about stopping the override. It is about delaying it. whopis01 Dec 2020 #94

Great. So the R's will twist this into the Dems being against defense. n/t pnwmom Dec 2020 #34

The Dem Senators aren't going to go with Bernie on this vote. comradebillyboy Dec 2020 #37

I know they won't. But watch the R's spin it as a "Democrat" position. n/t pnwmom Dec 2020 #39

Guaranteed. yonder Dec 2020 #43

That's poor campaigning on Dems to eat every crappy message that comes from the kGOP uponit7771 Dec 2020 #75

Thanks Bernie! jalan48 Dec 2020 #38

Raising a ruckus and bringing attention to the fact that NoMoreRepugs Dec 2020 #41

No one in his family served in the military and depended upon pay increases. George II Dec 2020 #45

Military pay increases are not dependent upon this bill. Mariana Dec 2020 #69

KNR Lucinda Dec 2020 #46

Teamwork makes the dream work! nt yaesu Dec 2020 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #54

A game of chicken. paleotn Dec 2020 #49

This is partly to keep Mitch's minions, Bonnie and Clyde, off the trail in GA liskddksil Dec 2020 #55

I am no Bernie fan, but I support this. Get them on the record... nt Blasphemer Dec 2020 #56

Remember, This Congress Is Only In Session COL Mustard Dec 2020 #58

Good on Bernie. People first as usual. KPN Dec 2020 #60

How much of this defense bill will go into the pockets of the rich? AmyStrange Dec 2020 #71

About 20% goes to military personnel. Voltaire2 Dec 2020 #88

All McConnell has to do is put the $2000 up to a vote UCmeNdc Dec 2020 #87

In my opinion... kentuck Dec 2020 #89

Not sure how I feel about this. honest.abe Dec 2020 #90

i agree. 1500 radio stations will interpret this in mcconnell's favor certainot Dec 2020 #96

K & R mountain grammy Dec 2020 #98