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106. analysed.....sort of

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 02:17 PM

Oct 2012

A forensic video analyst, who did not wish to be named because of pending state and federal cases he’s working on, says he also believes the white object was just a handkerchief.
“The size, thickness, and overall dimensionality when he first walks up to the podium is consistent with a handkerchief, and not with a single note card,” he tells Whispers. “The elemental movement and mechanics [later on in the video] also suggest it’s absolutely a handkerchief he picks up around his face.”

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/10/05/no-mitt-romney-did-not-bring-cheat-notes-to-the-debate

It's a handkerchief he wipes with? Well, duh. No one is questioning that, Mr. Anonymous Republican "Forensic Analyst", you think he's gonna wipe his face with a bunch of papers?. Not a "single note card?". How about folded up papers, or several cards wrapped in a hanky? Not that I doubt the esteemed journalistic integrity of US News & World Report or the existance of said un-named "forensic video analyst", not me.

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Cheatgate (R) going viral [View all] Berlum Oct 2012 OP

once again, romneys big moment, down in flames of disgrace and humiliation. seabeyond Oct 2012 #1

Particularly Intriuging, Ma'am, To See Local Channels Picking Up On It The Magistrate Oct 2012 #6

i didnt know. and thanks for the info. yes. and you betcha i am going to be sharing seabeyond Oct 2012 #12

Tell them it was Obama that had the cheat sheets first... kracer20 Oct 2012 #82

lol lol. clever. first i have to find out now, hankerchief or seabeyond Oct 2012 #97

LOL wryter2000 Oct 2012 #102

after careful scientific examination I have determined that there is a grantcart Oct 2012 #132

K&R tk2kewl Oct 2012 #2

Let's call it by its proper name: HankyGate BlueStreak Oct 2012 #128

Oh dear, that brings to mind Mister Hanky Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #170

One CBS station is everywhere? bluestateguy Oct 2012 #3

...at least 2 CBS stations, for what it's worth Lucy Goosey Oct 2012 #5

I remember. n/t timber84 Oct 2012 #7

Chicago, Boston and DC... that I've seen... that's quite a start. hlthe2b Oct 2012 #16

Reported here in Philly too - CBS3 BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #25

In a few days, he'll be saying "Cheating was completely wrong!" KansDem Oct 2012 #4

When Mitt Romney says he's sorry formercia Oct 2012 #65

Naw . . . Richard D Oct 2012 #94

In a few days... no one will remember or care. -..__... Oct 2012 #140

We will remind them. ywcachieve Oct 2012 #141

Not with that attitude, missy! n/t demwing Oct 2012 #173

still waiting comservindependant Oct 2012 #171

Wait for it demwing Oct 2012 #174

The OP is from CBS News. Bump. n/t silvershadow Oct 2012 #8

CBS, yes. CBS News? sl8 Oct 2012 #60

whoops, my bad. I saw the CBS2 thingy at the top, and perused it, but didn't catch that. Mea culpa silvershadow Oct 2012 #62

It wasn't obvious. sl8 Oct 2012 #119

Author listed in OP has bought it back as well... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #172

Just when you think he's sunk as low as he can go! polichick Oct 2012 #9

Oh no, there is no depth Myth Romney cannot go to politicaljack78 Oct 2012 #81

Daily Beast has it too Lucy Goosey Oct 2012 #10

NO ONE AS FUSSY AS ROMNEY THROWS HIS HANDKERCHIEF DOWN ONTO A SURFACE jsmirman Oct 2012 #11

Now that is an excellent point! Most excellent. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #21

Thanks jsmirman Oct 2012 #58

I did have him pegged as requiring barrels of hand sanitizer on hand at all times. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #64

Interestingly jsmirman Oct 2012 #79

cspan nycbiscuit Oct 2012 #113

Murphy's Law for everyone except for, PBS. They may have it (Big Bird's Revenge). DhhD Oct 2012 #131

I'm noticing a trend here.....low post count, and the opinion that this "won't go anywhere" Th1onein Oct 2012 #149

and that hankie is folded and smaller than what he threw on the podium 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #156

Baby terrorizing! gkhouston Oct 2012 #114

He wants to fire them jsmirman Oct 2012 #126

Hanky?? Did I miss something? I saw the vid; it's clearly paper, BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2012 #136

He actually does wipe his mouth with a hankie right before the closing statements jsmirman Oct 2012 #137

ah, I see....now I'll definitely have to have another look BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2012 #139

Jsmirman, that hanky BOUNCED a bit! Th1onein Oct 2012 #148

I think so, too, but not being a dry cleaner... jsmirman Oct 2012 #150

whatever he threw on the podium 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #157

One other thing may be worth noting (or not.) Ship of Fools Oct 2012 #191

Who doesn't jsmirman Oct 2012 #192

Depends if you think the prez was "turning the other cheek." Ship of Fools Oct 2012 #193

Do you think it looks like a hanky? cilla4progress Oct 2012 #53

You can't stack a hanky in a sheaf of papers upon exit and nothing went back in his pocket. cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #70

The hanky may be under what looks like the unfolded paper. polly7 Oct 2012 #105

That's the stiffest hanky I've ever seen tularetom Oct 2012 #67

He clearly picked up a sheet of paper from the podium ronnie624 Oct 2012 #188

Viral phenomena no longer depend on corporate media (R) Berlum Oct 2012 #13

Yeah, now anyone can make it up Coyotl Oct 2012 #118

Is that what you think we're doing? Making shit up? Th1onein Oct 2012 #151

Yeah, that pretty much nails it. Coyotl Oct 2012 #175

So YOU, in all of YOUR wisdom, are here to tell US what the "real" issues are? Th1onein Oct 2012 #180

Yeah, that pretty much nails it. Coyotl Oct 2012 #183

That's strange. When I first came here, I had two sign ins, and they made me take one off. Th1onein Oct 2012 #184

Obama's performance was good, period. Coyotl Oct 2012 #185

Well, rightwingers are saying it was not, and that we are making excuses. Th1onein Oct 2012 #187

Spread the word... City Lights Oct 2012 #14

Republican Romney Busted Berlum Oct 2012 #17

Love this ColumbusLib Oct 2012 #69

Here's slow-motion video: OneGrassRoot Oct 2012 #15

That can't be a handkerchief. It's Cyrano Oct 2012 #18

it looks like a PDA wraped in a hanky to me. It even bounces. n/t nebenaube Oct 2012 #22

Yeah looks more like a 17" iMac! whistler162 Oct 2012 #166

Deliberate hiding move Bobbie Jo Oct 2012 #40

Notice how he brings it out as he is walking to the podium and looks forward while taking it out. RBInMaine Oct 2012 #130

I could be wrong...But does he look directly at the camera .... zellie Oct 2012 #83

Stiffest damn "hankie" I've ever seen. nt tpsbmam Oct 2012 #133

Romney's soon going to be bragging about the cheating and lying andym Oct 2012 #19

It's part of his ritual GladRagDahl Oct 2012 #20

If PDC debate rules are secret than we can't be sure what's allowed and what is not but nc4bo Oct 2012 #28

do you prefer pepperoni? or sausage? nt grasswire Oct 2012 #32

Looks like a pepperoni lover to me. nt Th1onein Oct 2012 #154

The description of this "ritual" at the link doesn't match what he did BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #33

He doesn't need to throw something onto the podium before he can . . . freedom fighter jh Oct 2012 #34

He could write "Dad" with the pen and paper that are already placed on the podium Chorophyll Oct 2012 #37

Huh? dooner Oct 2012 #45

There's nothing in there about a thick wad of .... something TalkingDog Oct 2012 #49

there was more than Dad on that paper 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #66

Maybe that paper contained his Dad Generic Brad Oct 2012 #142

BWAAAAHAHAHA! nt tblue Oct 2012 #147

He should write DAD on a piece of paper everytime someone mentions Tax Returns. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #78

Word! Brother Buzz Oct 2012 #122

Dad? StarryNite Oct 2012 #88

Not the ritual wryter2000 Oct 2012 #100

That is just messed up. A grown man needs to write "Dad" so he won't do gkhouston Oct 2012 #115

I think that this "Dad" thing is another false narrative, like Bush being a rancher. Th1onein Oct 2012 #155

I can never read a reference to Dubya's "ranch" without thinking of the maddiemom Oct 2012 #176

You're lucky. Th1onein Oct 2012 #181

Have dad embroidered on the drapes. lol 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #160

Note paper was on the lecturn for him to write notes (as Obama did) - no need to bring outside paper George II Oct 2012 #110

And, according to the article you linked, the ritual does NOT include his actions Th1onein Oct 2012 #153

He can do that with the provided pen and paper Panasonic Oct 2012 #158

FWIW - i was watching very closely at the start of the debate hedgehog Oct 2012 #23

I'm just sitting here laughing. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #24

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #36

Excuse me? Are you talking about the President of the United States? Chorophyll Oct 2012 #38

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #26

Nope and is not the topic of THIS particular discussion. nm nc4bo Oct 2012 #30

Yes it is. Because this is nonsense distraction. raina starling Oct 2012 #31

Is it? I thought so at first as well... OneGrassRoot Oct 2012 #39

And so is your post. BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #41

No - it speaks of your candidate's character or lack thereof. nc4bo Oct 2012 #44

This one's a troll MgtPA Oct 2012 #50

Correction. Was a troll. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #73

Huh? malaise Oct 2012 #52

The ones around tombstones jsmirman Oct 2012 #152

When you cheat you do one important thing. donqpublic Oct 2012 #63

distraction from what? 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #159

This has been discussed abundantly in other threads on this site. nt Chorophyll Oct 2012 #42

Ba da BUMP, BUMP-BUMP hifiguy Oct 2012 #75

i just posted it on facebook rdking647 Oct 2012 #27

In the words of the Great George Takei, hifiguy Oct 2012 #29

Wow, you must have a thrilling incarnation. raina starling Oct 2012 #35

Is the MSM reporting it? if not it will not affect anything. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #43

These days, if something goes viral on the net, there's a good chance that the MSM Chorophyll Oct 2012 #46

Exactly. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #47

Yes they are dooner Oct 2012 #54

Except that the "reporter" here didn't bother to research it BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #59

Am I getting this right? It's okay to take notes during the debate (it mentions Obama leaving his gateley Oct 2012 #48

No...you cannot bring notes into the debate. RagAss Oct 2012 #51

Got it. You know, as fucking stupid as Romney is, I'm still surprised he gateley Oct 2012 #57

Stupid shit . . . fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #72

(several) Someone(s) send the CBS Links to Rachel, Ed, Lawerence... Rosco T. Oct 2012 #55

been messaging them on FB! cilla4progress Oct 2012 #91

suit pocket question riverwalker Oct 2012 #56

So Mitt goes BACK to the podium and gets his "notes" and gives them to one of his sons. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #68

why is he struggling riverwalker Oct 2012 #86

Next time, they should debate naked. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #93

Because you might not want breast pockets jberryhill Oct 2012 #127

So that's how he got through Harvard. Nt Incitatus Oct 2012 #61

Cheatgate (R) going viral The CCC Oct 2012 #71

Nice try ... the rules are you don't bring notes...even Love You Ann...or papers...even blank cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #74

It won't matter to his faithful, just as it didn't matter when Bush wore a wire rtassi Oct 2012 #76

We'll be chatting about it in The Dallas Morning News w8liftinglady Oct 2012 #77

Thank you to the person who caught this Politicub Oct 2012 #80

I am not defending him but I did see his wipe his brow with an handkerchief when the kimbutgar Oct 2012 #84

Would someone who had make-up on . . . Richard D Oct 2012 #98

When he wiped his brow later, did he take something from the podium AleksS Oct 2012 #104

If you watch more on c-span you can clearly see him unfolding the paper afterwards. DrummerMan Oct 2012 #85

This picture shows the note paper that were ok by the rules. What he takes out of his pocket patrice Oct 2012 #87

ALL EYES ON PAUL RYAN .... Orbit1 Oct 2012 #89

I saw that TuxedoKat Oct 2012 #90

Someone watch the debate again TatonkaJames Oct 2012 #92

I thought I remember seeing him pick up some papers at the end neohippie Oct 2012 #95

And he attempted to put them inside his inside jacket pocket - both sides - then handed them to sad sally Oct 2012 #125

Well, he cheats at family games EC Oct 2012 #96

I've read elsewhere.... boyedav1969 Oct 2012 #99

I missed something what did he do? ArnoldLayne Oct 2012 #101

Sorry folks Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #103

analysed.....sort of riverwalker Oct 2012 #106

plus the size of what he threw on the podium 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #161

It bounces off the podium and also retains its flat shape. That ain't no handkerchief Quixote1818 Oct 2012 #143

That is blatant. Drahthaardogs Oct 2012 #107

I don't get >> "the President walks off stage, leaving his notes behind for an aide.."??? 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #108

NO! There was paper already ON the lecterns for them to take notes during the debate. George II Oct 2012 #112

Ah! Makes sense. Thanks. ~nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #116

Didn't mean to seem to be yelling at you, but this whole thing really has me angry. George II Oct 2012 #120

das cool. I didn't take it that way. 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #121

Watch as he leaves spedtr90 Oct 2012 #109

Come on Mitt..write the shit on your hand like Sarah did tjwash Oct 2012 #111

Before next debate, Mitt needs to be patted down by TSA 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #117

President Mitt "Cheat-To-Win" Romney? I don't think so. Blue Owl Oct 2012 #123

Reminds me of George Bush the pictures after the debate DisabledAmerican Oct 2012 #124

This was predicted, long, long ago by two bright young women. GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #129

And the "hanky" couldn't have notes on it? wtmusic Oct 2012 #134

I see it WAS a very STIFF hanky. File cards? n/t DemzRock Oct 2012 #194

Yup. It was a hanky so over-starched that it stood up straight. jerseyjack Oct 2012 #135

It also bounces off the podium if you watch closely. Quixote1818 Oct 2012 #144

Not only that laundry_queen Oct 2012 #190

Hmmm... madamesilverspurs Oct 2012 #138

Can you say-- geologic Oct 2012 #145

Read the Update. snot Oct 2012 #146

I still don't n/t 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #162

After reviewing the evidence.... Berlum Oct 2012 #163

Rachel Maddow called it a kooky theory last night... Cooley Hurd Oct 2012 #165

Additionally, there was a news article (ABC?) yesterday that reported they'd done Native Oct 2012 #168

She should look up the meaning of theory. It is a weird "hypothesis" Coyotl Oct 2012 #186

Republicans CHEATING during ELECTION season? IMPOSSIBLE!! Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #164

Mitts "zinger" list. Historic NY Oct 2012 #167

Bush cheated too sellitman Oct 2012 #169

What am I missing? zentrum Oct 2012 #177

that's no hanky Slit Skirt Oct 2012 #178

from the website cited by the OP Bucky Oct 2012 #189

TYT showed there was a hankerchief but it must have been a... DemzRock Oct 2012 #179

smh swishyfeet Oct 2012 #182