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Pantagruel

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32. Two disastrous elections

Reply to jalan48 (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 07:38 PM

Dec 2020

same result. Gore and HRC , both follow successful Dem presidencies, both incredibly well qualified running against MUCH less qualified GOP jokers, both win popular vote and consigned to the junk bin of history by the quirks of the Electoral College. Worse, Bush and Trump both deliver disastrous results with negative implications looking out decades.

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Bizarre hypothetical: Has Covid saved the Republic? [View all] Pantagruel Dec 2020 OP

yes demtenjeep Dec 2020 #1

+1 Earthshine2 Dec 2020 #2

He just couldn't muster any interest in leading a response Cirque du So-What Dec 2020 #25

Not bizarre BeyondGeography Dec 2020 #3

The Lord works Mme. Defarge Dec 2020 #4

It truly is biblical in scope. tinrobot Dec 2020 #36

If Trump had done even a half-assed job of handling the pandemic, he would have been re-elected. Arkansas Granny Dec 2020 #5

Absolutely yes. He would have won easily if he had just pretended to take some action and act like Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #6

That's asking too much of him Cirque du So-What Dec 2020 #26

He must have figured cheating would win the election for him. So he didn't have to bother with Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #27

No, it's killing hundreds of thousands BainsBane Dec 2020 #7

But what if we didn't have it and Trump had been doc03 Dec 2020 #16

Maybe BainsBane Dec 2020 #19

It also eased the climate crisis a little. calimary Dec 2020 #8

I'm waiting for justice Pantagruel Dec 2020 #9

Yes I believe it has for now and if Trump doc03 Dec 2020 #10

Likewise, the economic collapse in 2008 probably handed the Presidency to Obama. jalan48 Dec 2020 #11

'08 crisis Pantagruel Dec 2020 #15

Not sure how many more Republican catastrophes we can take in order to get a Democrat elected jalan48 Dec 2020 #20

Two disastrous elections Pantagruel Dec 2020 #32

It has ripped open and exposed every Republican weakness Blue Owl Dec 2020 #12

sane people know that demtenjeep Dec 2020 #14

I posted this on 12/02. Saying the extra unnecessary deaths might be worth it. brewens Dec 2020 #13

No, I think he would have lost without it. Democrats would not have been JI7 Dec 2020 #17

Good point Pantagruel Dec 2020 #21

As soon as I saw Trump's reaction to COVID I said it would be what brought him down. CaptainTruth Dec 2020 #18

The pandemic ended up helping him. W_HAMILTON Dec 2020 #22

yes, that is my counter-intuitive take as well LymphocyteLover Dec 2020 #38

I have almost no doubt that Trump would have won Hav Dec 2020 #23

Yes. bamagal62 Dec 2020 #24

I truly believe that if there hadn't been this COVID nightmare, T would have Nay Dec 2020 #28

I think it's more complicated-- see response 22 LymphocyteLover Dec 2020 #39

God works in strange ways. NT. anamnua Dec 2020 #29

No. It granted it a reprieve. roamer65 Dec 2020 #30

Interesting. kentuck Dec 2020 #31

I'm not at all sure the Republic is saved. It may have delayed its demise a little. Crunchy Frog Dec 2020 #33

After super Tuesday it was Biden's race to lose. ucrdem Dec 2020 #34

Trump would've lost anyway IMO, radius777 Dec 2020 #35

I don't think so. David__77 Dec 2020 #37