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Hortensis

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25. Hillary's big plans were what you call pushing the party back
Fri Jan 1, 2021, 10:18 AM
Jan 2021

to its roots, creating good new jobs, raising incomes, etc. Realizing how incredibly valuable that would have been, and the enormous ground we've lost by not doing it, is what I mean about getting smart.

As for starting up new local stations, I'd love to have one in my town, but we can't force people to watch and I suspect most would fail. We could (WHEN we can) return to and improve on the Fairness Doctrine. Require all forms of existing news media to provide at least an hour a day of reliable news information people need. Fox can survive an hour of news that meets federal requirements and skips the lies and distortions.

I haven't thought about information science in high schools. Are you thinking of the part that teaches what information is? Or?

Regarding use of "populism," btw, that doesn't mean "the people," though some misuse it that way. When they're professionals who know better I immediately question their motives. Populist techniques, at their worst, and they usually are at their worst, are used to gain power by inflaming and harnessing aggressively negative emotions with promises to overthrow the established government. Those they appeal to are not idealists and builders, and they're not ideologues, they're in it for the destruction.

As we see by the many who supported both socialist Sanders and fascist white nationalist Trump at both or different times, and the many more who could have. Both leaders tried to woo each other's followers, who saw them both as creating the chance to smash all opposition that they gleefully threatened on social media. Trump was their main chance by far of course. Sanders seemingly was preferred by those more motivated by populism's typically economically progressive goals than by its socially conservative antagonisms. Notably, when he tried to rein them in because they were drawing way too much attention, they refused. He couldn't control them.

I'm going on about that because if we do lose our nation, it'll be to a populist leader heading up a populist mob, with a vast crowd of clueless partisans running behind.



The Personality Trait That Is Ripping America (and the World) Apart: People who are antagonistic resonate more with populist messages
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/the-personality-trait-that-is-ripping-america-and-the-world-apart/

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In addition to, this is not a credible source, add where did you learn this? or How do you know this 3Hotdogs Jan 2021 #1
:) Well, I am a middle school librarian who teaches essme Jan 2021 #3
O.T.O.H. as another credible source says, "You can't fix stupid." 3Hotdogs Jan 2021 #4
I think in this case, the Dems are going to have to try essme Jan 2021 #6
How? If it were only stupidity and ignorance. It's personality Hortensis Jan 2021 #10
Extremely good points- essme Jan 2021 #11
Hillary's big plans were what you call pushing the party back Hortensis Jan 2021 #25
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