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In reply to the discussion: Why The Numbers Behind Mitch McConnell's Re-Election Don't Add Up [View all]Progressive dog
(7,609 posts)180. That has nothing to do with you thinking that
you can oversee elections. You can't.
The Gore campaign missed the mistake until it was too late.
I can't imagine why you think you could have found it. All those people recounting and none of them found it either..
In 2001, the National Opinion Research Center (NORC) at the University of Chicago, sponsored by a consortium of major United States news organizations, conducted the Florida Ballot Project, a comprehensive review of 175,010 ballots that vote-counting machines had rejected from the entire state, not just the disputed counties that were recounted.[3] The project's goal was to determine the reliability and accuracy of the systems used in the voting process, including how different systems correlated with voter mistakes. The study was conducted over a period of 10 months. Based on the review, the media group concluded that if the disputes over the validity of all the ballots in question had been consistently resolved and any uniform standard applied, the electoral result would have been reversed and Gore would have won by 60 to 171 votes.[4] On the other hand, under scenarios involving review of limited sets of ballots uncounted by machines, Bush would have kept his lead. In one such scenario Al Gore's request for recounts in four predominantly Democratic counties Bush would have won by 225 votes.[a] In another scenario (if the remaining 64 Florida counties had carried out the hand recount of disputed ballots ordered by the Florida Supreme Court on December 8, applying the various standards that county election officials said they would have used), Bush would have emerged the victor by 493 votes.[74]
The scenarios involving limited sets of ballots included the completed uncertified recount by Palm Beach County, which nevertheless had excluded a set-aside cache of dimpled ballots with clear indications of intent, an uncounted net gain of 682 votes for Gore.[c][5][75] In contrast, the scenarios involving all uncounted ballots statewide considered all votes from Palm Beach County, subjected to various standards of inclusion. The Washington Post qualified the tallies conducted by the NORC consortium with the statement: "But no study of this type can accurately recreate Election Day 2000 or predict what might have emerged from individual battles over more than 6 million votes in Florida's 67 counties."[76]
Further analysis revealed that black-majority precincts had three times as many rejected ballots as white precincts. "For minorities, the ballot survey found, a recount would not have redressed the inequities because most ballots were beyond retrieving. But a recount could have restored the votes of thousands of older voters whose dimpled and double-voted ballots were indecipherable to machines but would have been clear in a ballot-by-ballot review."[77]
The scenarios involving limited sets of ballots included the completed uncertified recount by Palm Beach County, which nevertheless had excluded a set-aside cache of dimpled ballots with clear indications of intent, an uncounted net gain of 682 votes for Gore.[c][5][75] In contrast, the scenarios involving all uncounted ballots statewide considered all votes from Palm Beach County, subjected to various standards of inclusion. The Washington Post qualified the tallies conducted by the NORC consortium with the statement: "But no study of this type can accurately recreate Election Day 2000 or predict what might have emerged from individual battles over more than 6 million votes in Florida's 67 counties."[76]
Further analysis revealed that black-majority precincts had three times as many rejected ballots as white precincts. "For minorities, the ballot survey found, a recount would not have redressed the inequities because most ballots were beyond retrieving. But a recount could have restored the votes of thousands of older voters whose dimpled and double-voted ballots were indecipherable to machines but would have been clear in a ballot-by-ballot review."[77]
That quote that you didn't link to is not in the link I posted.
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Why The Numbers Behind Mitch McConnell's Re-Election Don't Add Up [View all]
orangecrush
Dec 2020
OP
And NC. I saw some really really strange things happen in my own county, and I know this
BComplex
Dec 2020
#19
+1,My buddy was saying race was way too close relative to counties Trump won. He was saying he,
uponit7771
Dec 2020
#10
THAT'S why the Pubs keep accusing the Dems of election fraud! THey always accuse their opponents of
napi21
Dec 2020
#9
North Carolina has a democratic governor also, but the votes in my county never did make sense.
BComplex
Dec 2020
#27
correct. In a state which requires party affiliation on your registration
yellowdogintexas
Dec 2020
#151
Both hc and Stacey want paper ballots because it is the only way to
questionseverything
Dec 2020
#149
That's the second time you have accused me of something I didn't say
questionseverything
Dec 2020
#154
They didn't find it because they didn't hand count the entire state
questionseverything
Jan 2021
#181
This is why you purge registration lists, even at risk for being charged with voter suppression.
Hoyt
Dec 2020
#28
Probably not wading in on Sidney Powell kraken-esque internet conspiracy theories.
tritsofme
Dec 2020
#47
These "concerns" are no less baseless than the nonsense being spread by Powell.
tritsofme
Dec 2020
#58
Shame on anyone gullible enough to fall for baseless conspiracy theories like this.
tritsofme
Dec 2020
#73
Threads like this should really be relegated to the woo-woo conspiracy forum.
tritsofme
Dec 2020
#45
So you don't actually believe this nonsense? I guess that makes me feel a little better.
tritsofme
Dec 2020
#51
ESS is one of the two Republican outfits that "delivered" Ohio for Cheney-Bush in 2004
DFW
Dec 2020
#50
Rove's 2008 meltdown on FOX pretty much showed the entire nation ES&S was aiding election fraud
pecosbob
Dec 2020
#127
I would like more scientific audits of elections, especially where machines are used.
CaptainTruth
Dec 2020
#56
Bingo! I grew up there when KY was a very dependable Democratic state
yellowdogintexas
Dec 2020
#147
Why would an organization like the ACLU involve itself in Sidney Powell level conspiracy theories?
tritsofme
Dec 2020
#101
Given their inaction and complete lack of interest, perhaps you can infer their interpretation
tritsofme
Dec 2020
#103
The biggest clue, IMHO, is that Republicans always accuse the Dems of the crimes
Neema
Dec 2020
#128