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leveymg

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17. Past a point, "failed policies, including the lack of oversight" is structural failure.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 03:36 PM
Jan 2012

You seem to ignore it that it is the conventional economic wisdom held by Obama and the radical centrist leadership of both parties that has created America's present economic, political, and social crises. Neither GG nor Stoller have said "that Democrats are the bad guys and the cause of everything wrong with the country. They ask you to overlook the Republicans' flaws and lunacy." That's a straw man, a rhetorical device you use a lot of.

The Austrians have a valid point that the financial system is massively distorted because trading in financial derivatives based in state debt instruments -- the Repo and Public Debt Markets -- dwarfs trading in private stocks and bonds. It isn't just the economic primatives who warn of the dangers of such a system that depends upon the expectations of private profits from public debt and public bailouts of markets. Krugman's great early contribution to the field was his analysis of the '97 Asia Crisis, in which he observed that such a system that includes state guarantees of profits is prone to market bubbles and blowouts because of the Pangloss Value (Krugman's term) that results from traders expectation of bailouts in interconnected markets.

As for the Paleocon welfare economics and some of his social policy, neither Stoller nor GG endorse Paul. So, why do you continue to post stuff that makes it seem that they do, unless you are simply confused?

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Your link does not work. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #1
Fixed. Thanks. n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #3
Here's the link to Stoller's column in original. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #7
Yes, ProSense Jan 2012 #9
So? People should read an article before letting you "discuss" it. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #11
Stoller has now teamed up with the Paul people - he is forever tainted. banned from Kos Jan 2012 #16
Why? ProSense Jan 2012 #18
Great. Just in case anyone missed it, the correct link to the article by Stoller... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #20
Thanks for the direct link. That is a fascinating read! MrCoffee Jan 2012 #24
Why you are welcome, sir, it's my pleasure to provide said link... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #28
Actually, you linked to your link of Stoller's original article. Jack Riddler linked to Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #13
Kick! n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #2
Stoller & GG are right about the illiberal ends of the modern economy and state finance. Krugman leveymg Jan 2012 #4
Correct, but some people are all about the labels, you know? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #6
Well ProSense Jan 2012 #8
You continue to misrepresent Greenwald and now Stoller... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #12
What? ProSense Jan 2012 #15
Yes, really. Luminous Animal is correct MrCoffee Jan 2012 #22
OK ProSense Jan 2012 #27
The question asked in the article is which type of politician is preferable MrCoffee Jan 2012 #30
Actually, he is defining a hypothetical dilemma and then elaborates in the following paragraphs... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #26
And ProSense Jan 2012 #29
He presents the hypothetical dilemma and then dismisses it as immaterial... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #32
No, ProSense Jan 2012 #33
You illustrate precisely why it is important to read the entire article... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #34
Really? ProSense Jan 2012 #37
Again, he is laying out what libertarians believe... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #40
I'm ProSense Jan 2012 #43
But wait a second.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #48
Yeah ProSense Jan 2012 #50
I don't think it's fair of you to state that "Obama=Paul" girl gone mad Jan 2012 #52
OK ProSense Jan 2012 #54
Can you be more specific here? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #55
Can we agree then? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #57
Past a point, "failed policies, including the lack of oversight" is structural failure. leveymg Jan 2012 #17
Wrong ProSense Jan 2012 #25
"Regulators who turn a blind eye to enforcement is a people failure." girl gone mad Jan 2012 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author JackRiddler Jan 2012 #5
Stoller is correct. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #10
You ProSense Jan 2012 #14
You really should work toward getting better reading comprehension. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #19
OK ProSense Jan 2012 #21
So the President agrees with Paul on marriage equality. And they state the same religious Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #31
Here's ProSense Jan 2012 #47
"because they both believe Ron Paul's message on the Fed" girl gone mad Jan 2012 #41
No ProSense Jan 2012 #49
I'm still confused about why you think this means Stoller has to post.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #53
Because ProSense Jan 2012 #59
they are consumed with destroying the Federal Reserve and Ron Paul is their ally banned from Kos Jan 2012 #23
Congrats, Prosense! girl gone mad Jan 2012 #42
you are jealous, aren't you? banned from Kos Jan 2012 #45
Haha, misguided MFrohike Jan 2012 #56
I just came across Stoller's stupid screed this am and literally laughed out loud. jefferson_dem Jan 2012 #35
I honestly don't understand the bile MrCoffee Jan 2012 #36
Reasonable question - good luck looking for an answer. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #38
Monetary policy is not a scheme for liberals to wage large scale wars. banned from Kos Jan 2012 #44
Good thing your title line has nothing to do with what Stoller said. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #46
I wish you all would laugh out loud at Paul and the President on marriage equality on Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #39
EarlG has it right when it comes to Ron Paul. nt stevenleser Jan 2012 #51
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