Free traders will never answer this... if immigrants are needed here...

[Zalatix]

36. "Arguing over who started it"? In short, you can dish out the attacks but you can't take it.

If you accuse me of wearing blinders I will accuse you of wearing rose-colored glasses. Period. And you are in fact wearing rose-colored glasses.

You have been condescending and callous toward the working class for months. Your logic is tortured, your arguments have been soundly refuted by SCORES of people, and yes, you do believe in free trade, so you are a free trader. That is a fact. Don't act all offended about being called a free trader, just own it! Now if I called you a FREE TRAITOR then you'd have reason to complain.

And as for trying someone's patience? You've been trying mine with your endless pattern of evasions and outright indifference toward America's working class. So don't bother me with your "I'm trying your patience". If you can't handle the legions of people who have discredited your free trade views, then that's on you, and it's not going to stop. Look around you, support for free trade is IMPLODING. Nationwide.

Now I will get back to the subject at hand. You had the nerve to say "things might not be so bad for us as you suppose." Have you looked at the way in which our middle class has DECLINED? Oh yeah, I forgot, it was you who posted the remark about how it is the obligation of America's working class to get poorer to help other nations. What were your exact words: ah, yes, your exact words where "Maybe as a nation we should lower our standards so the third world can do better". You basically said American workers need MORE SUFFERING. Lower standards of living means more suffering. You can't translate that in any other way. You hate for me to bring that up, but you did say it. I once asked you what you would do if you lost your job to offshoring and you had nothing to say to that. Now I know why. You show a consistent pattern of indifference for America's working class.

Investing in up and coming economies will not produce jobs for America. We've done it already and it has done absolutely nothing but drive up our imports faster than our exports. Our "engine of a growing economy" is one in which 90% of the growth goes to the 1%. Why? Because they're hunting cheap labor overseas.

No country's working class ever prospers that sends out more jobs than they bring in. None.

You don't want to "read all that" because you know it's true and you have no counter argument. I hope this doesn't "try your patience"