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gulliver

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39. Emotions play tricks with the truth usually.

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 04:08 PM

Oct 2012

In no way am I arguing for our side being inauthentic. In fact, the point of my post is that our side had authentic grounds to stand on and we didn't.

The implications of that do have an emotional impact unfortunately. The idea that "Obama lost the debate, not me" is pleasant, but that doesn't make it true.

Our secondary players and fans did a lot worse than Obama. That's all I am saying. And I'm saying it is the truth, not something we should force ourselves to pretend.

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Can we all agree to stand our ground after the next debate? [View all] gulliver Oct 2012 OP

Agreed wholeheartedly! DemzRock Oct 2012 #1

I didn't watch Current for the debates, but . . . Shae Oct 2012 #61

Disagree! Glitterati Oct 2012 #2

I kind of like DU and don't think it is "far off track" gulliver Oct 2012 #3

The Grover Norquist stuff is simple Glitterati Oct 2012 #6

Good post, Glittarati Vietnameravet Oct 2012 #12

Thanks! Glitterati Oct 2012 #13

Get a fucking grip lunatica Oct 2012 #28

LOL, you're telling ME to get a grip? Glitterati Oct 2012 #29

I sure am lunatica Oct 2012 #32

I have a very firm grip on sanity Glitterati Oct 2012 #37

Says the person who jumps off cliffs with hair on fire lunatica Oct 2012 #40

'Fraid not. Glitterati Oct 2012 #42

Wow...you are on hair-trigger. Lighten up and get a grip both. n/t xocet Oct 2012 #62

Oh, you're just so silly. Glitterati Oct 2012 #75

God forbid they should work to get a Democrat elected. Cary Oct 2012 #33

Are you responding to me? lunatica Oct 2012 #43

I was agreeing with you. Cary Oct 2012 #82

OK. Thanks for clarifying that lunatica Oct 2012 #83

That was a great post........ plethoro Oct 2012 #59

We can't agree on anything. MADem Oct 2012 #4

Four more years Glitterati Oct 2012 #9

That's one thing all of us, save the odd concern trolls, can agree upon~! nt MADem Oct 2012 #20

WE just have to work harder Glitterati Oct 2012 #23

excellent grasswire Oct 2012 #5

I only watched 10 minutes Glitterati Oct 2012 #11

K & R! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #7

He needs to have our back, too. woo me with science Oct 2012 #8

Hahaha. Snort. Haha. WOLF!!! DevonRex Oct 2012 #16

You actually think what we post here is going to change anything? cali Oct 2012 #10

I actually do think that. gulliver Oct 2012 #14

holier than thou graham4anything Oct 2012 #24

Easy to blame "holier than thou" tama Oct 2012 #58

there is that ralph nader line again. graham4anything Oct 2012 #65

There are differences tama Oct 2012 #66

they want us to all clap and shout "good answer, good answer" 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #67

LOL, this really makes me laugh...... Logical Oct 2012 #15

"Reality is an eye opener sometimes" gulliver Oct 2012 #18

Polls are tighter. No doubt about it. And the press has been good for Romney for the first time.... Logical Oct 2012 #21

maybe. robinlynne Oct 2012 #63

Obama kicked Mittens ass. Though it takes smart people looking 9 steps ahead to see it graham4anything Oct 2012 #31

Hmmm, sounds more like "3D Chess" stuff to me again. Not a fan of it. Logical Oct 2012 #36

read Paul Waldman's "Fraud" about the Bush family graham4anything Oct 2012 #48

What a shitload of tinfoil BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #52

I am not into conspiracy theories. I am into fact. Fact=Obama won graham4anything Oct 2012 #53

Exaggeration fanfan0711 Oct 2012 #81

I've got his back. Unlike some here. Nt DevonRex Oct 2012 #17

The Emperors New Clothes etherealtruth Oct 2012 #19

Which Emperor was naked this time tho? gulliver Oct 2012 #30

Clearly, you perceived Obama's performance as strong and powerful etherealtruth Oct 2012 #44

"He is capable of much better." gulliver Oct 2012 #50

I have his back. CakeGrrl Oct 2012 #22

I personally think some here are not who they proport to be graham4anything Oct 2012 #41

Bingo n/t politicasista Oct 2012 #70

No, because that's nonsense. No one "fed him to the wolves." The debate did not go well. DirkGently Oct 2012 #25

This would be an excellent OP etherealtruth Oct 2012 #27

Wow! An excellent post. Glitterati Oct 2012 #35

Emotions play tricks with the truth usually. gulliver Oct 2012 #39

I agree there was "substance" point to make & think we made it. DirkGently Oct 2012 #49

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I've had his back all along lunatica Oct 2012 #26

Totally agree. Cary Oct 2012 #38

Well if you mean lack of integrity or quality of integrity lunatica Oct 2012 #46

the only thing willard didn't do is wag his wienie NJCher Oct 2012 #79

What, and miss the next righteous rant from WilliamPitt? LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #34

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As the next one is town-hall format, I expect less opportunity for clash, so it is likely that patrice Oct 2012 #54

Thank you it is the spin we need to win awake Oct 2012 #55

DU is not the media and does not control it. former9thward Oct 2012 #56

We have to be honest even if it hurts sevenseas Oct 2012 #57

Honesty would include an effort to understand where one and one's cohoert stands in the patrice Oct 2012 #60

Obama blew it The Old Creak Oct 2012 #64

IMO, he didn't politicasista Oct 2012 #69

At this point, it's about the game The Old Creak Oct 2012 #74

He will be fine n/t politicasista Oct 2012 #77

Some of us expect Aerows Oct 2012 #68

Send this memo to MSNBC, Current, etc., etc... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #71

And you want a repeat of that performance? Or a threepeat? dkf Oct 2012 #72

You're kidding yourself, and the Dems are not (LETTERS FROM THE PARTY) jsmirman Oct 2012 #73

I reserve my right to criticize either candidate exboyfil Oct 2012 #76

I agree, and I was one of the ones letting it get to me. Lifelong Protester Oct 2012 #78

Sick of it. handsofthedevil Oct 2012 #80

The Creator Gave Me A Perfectly Good Brain . . . Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #84

the truth should always trump political allegiances quinnox Oct 2012 #85

Some of us need rubber sheeting to get through these things, And some of us keep our heads and msanthrope Oct 2012 #86