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Caliman73

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90. Trump did not plan this. Perhaps Miller, or one of the others, but not Trump.

Fri Jan 8, 2021, 12:46 PM

Jan 2021

I have said it repeatedly. Trump is an idiot. He does not plan. He reacts. He is good at reading rooms and grabbing on to opportunities to stoke anger, fear, and chaos. He is not a strategist. He was definitely not thinking that he could decapitate the legislative branch and her would be "monarch". I love Malcolm Nance, but I think this is hyperbole.

Trump certainly incited insurrection. He unleashed a potentially violent mob on the Capitol. Some of the "mob" had plans and were looking for the opportunity to commit violent acts. We know because of the found weapons, but this was not a highly planned, fleshed out, master plot by Trump.

Trump is dangerous because of his shamelessness and erratic behavior. He is not dangerous because he is plotting, and some kind of evil genius. He is an evil moron, who only got this far in life because he was born rich and has been shielded from consequences by enablers. If Trump had not been born rich, he would be in prison or dead by now.

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Malcolm Nance just made a chilling point. [View all] mfcorey1 Jan 2021 OP

I still cannot get over the lack of security True Dough Jan 2021 #1

The capitol police were complicit Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #7

If You Want To Blast Their Leadership, That's Fine COL Mustard Jan 2021 #31

Agree. The leadership is guilty of wnylib Jan 2021 #38

true this llashram Jan 2021 #45

How do you account for the uniformed officers who opened the barricades PTWB Jan 2021 #54

Even the one posing for selfies? Even the ones that helped move bafficades Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #60

Even the guy taking selfies with the terrorists? Butterflylady Jan 2021 #75

How bout the helpful officer who told the terrorists where to find schumers office? getagrip_already Jan 2021 #77

Here is a video of the capitol police holding the doors open for the terrorists as they left Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #91

Since I wrote my post, I just listened to The Daily podcast True Dough Jan 2021 #40

Mayor Brown may have been lied to dansolo Jan 2021 #64

On our local PBS shows, the local Political reporter was interviewing Congressman Juan Vargas - haele Jan 2021 #80

Interesting True Dough Jan 2021 #84

It was planned that way SoonerPride Jan 2021 #28

It sure looks that way. wnylib Jan 2021 #41

Damn sure was. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #65

Yup. The simple fact is there was plenty plus security KPN Jan 2021 #79

The same people are planning the inauguration security, and..... getagrip_already Jan 2021 #82

The lack of security was by design dlk Jan 2021 #53

What a coincidence. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #2

Agreed. They were pegged for assassination. no_hypocrisy Jan 2021 #3

A new VP requires approval of Congress. Thunderbeast Jan 2021 #8

Great point. Thanks! no_hypocrisy Jan 2021 #9

There you go with that logic roscoeroscoe Jan 2021 #14

Any New VP Under Those Circumstances Would Have To Be Confirmed COL Mustard Jan 2021 #33

Both chambers have to approve a VP appointment Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #35

Absolutely! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #4

I have virtually no doubt PCIntern Jan 2021 #5

Is that accurate? nam78_two Jan 2021 #21

If a bunch of misogynist white supremacists has actually manage to snatch Gov. Whitmer Tarc Jan 2021 #36

I could be wrong on this, but I wnylib Jan 2021 #46

Hmmm-I had decided to stick to science and wildlife nam78_two Jan 2021 #92

I have no idea what you are running wnylib Jan 2021 #94

Apologies-I was mixing up multiple streams of consciousness nam78_two Jan 2021 #96

I did. I definitely saw articles were one of the kidnappers was talking about rape. DLCWIdem Jan 2021 #62

This had been in the planning since the day Dumpy lost the election judesedit Jan 2021 #6

+1000 wnylib Jan 2021 #48

Malcolm Nance is a national treasure. Those terrorists carrying zip-tie restraints are telling. Liberal In Texas Jan 2021 #10

+1000 padah513 Jan 2021 #19

Don't forget the gallows out front. niyad Jan 2021 #42

I don't believe that Pompeo and Mnuchin were there Klaralven Jan 2021 #11

Overwrought Analysis brooklynite Jan 2021 #12

Agree - wasn't Biden in Delaware during the attack? ArizonaLib Jan 2021 #59

During the melee I had thoughts of the tv show "Designated Survivor" milestogo Jan 2021 #13

Fortunately Congress escaped C_U_L8R Jan 2021 #15

Treason and attempted pre-meditated murder. wnylib Jan 2021 #52

I'd Prefer Life Solitary Confinement smb Jan 2021 #73

Maybe, but as long as they are alive, wnylib Jan 2021 #81

With guidance and direction from Putin and other autocratic favorites of dumpster, no doubt debsy Jan 2021 #16

Some people recognized traits in Trump wnylib Jan 2021 #74

I think they were more interested in finding those ballots than murdering anybody. Ligyron Jan 2021 #17

The two young ladies that saved Democracy on 1/6/21 safeinOhio Jan 2021 #68

Agree, absolutely Ligyron Jan 2021 #88

Only 3 people in the line of succession were in the Capitol StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #18

Yes, on the State of the Union. ShazzieB Jan 2021 #71

The idea seemed to be creating such a terrible situation that Trump would have to enact martial law hadEnuf Jan 2021 #76

I think this was his last attempt. louis-t Jan 2021 #20

Many? As far as I know, ALL of them were there. wnylib Jan 2021 #22

Michael Schmidt was saying tonight on Lawrence I moonscape Jan 2021 #25

NPR interviewed two people wnylib Jan 2021 #34

Schmidt was answering the question if he knew moonscape Jan 2021 #43

I'm not entirely convinced that getting him out of DC wnylib Jan 2021 #72

The whole Cabinet was there? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #37

Secret Service BARELY saved the situation JCMach1 Jan 2021 #23

Here's the line of succession.... Upthevibe Jan 2021 #24

Well, they were too dumb to know this as is the person who sent them. mfcorey1 Jan 2021 #26

This is a wake up call. Heads are gonna roll, things are gonna change, Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #27

I really hope that this does not wind up being dflprincess Jan 2021 #29

I think this action - and this alone! - will insure that it will NOT be swept under the rug. Chemisse Jan 2021 #61

I'm not convinced that it just won't be blamed on the rabble dflprincess Jan 2021 #87

He was also on Dean Obidallah's show last night Bettie Jan 2021 #30

Orchestrated by Trump's Minions, Maybe American Welshman Jan 2021 #32

He's the figurehead with plausible deniability. All they need to do is tell him they have a plan. haele Jan 2021 #86

Yeah, well, except Joe Biden and Kamala Harris weren't in the Capitol and they will be catbyte Jan 2021 #39

Actually, that had dawned on me PatSeg Jan 2021 #44

IIRC, there was a serious issue with the Secret Service requiring replacement wrt Biden... wiggs Jan 2021 #47

Bottom line, even if we don't confirm this...the POTENTIAL for this to happen during wiggs Jan 2021 #49

Makes you wonder what the "Homeland" the people in PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #50

Many, including members of HS, only care about the safety of US citizens when Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #95

Trump is totally willing to sacrifice congressional leaders and Pence IronLionZion Jan 2021 #51

As Malcolm had said, coincidences take a lot of planning dlk Jan 2021 #55

I think Stephen Miller has a big hand in this. Notice he's not ... Hotler Jan 2021 #56

That Was the Plan, Assassinate Other Top Leadership including Pence, Thankfully They Failed Skraxx Jan 2021 #57

Very chilling seta1950 Jan 2021 #58

Not worse than I imagine, definitely worse than reported. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #63

However, it was no coincidence that they failed, with their track record of incompetence. The OnDoutside Jan 2021 #66

i had posted on another thread that i believe the Con wanted the entire Congress taken out onetexan Jan 2021 #67

It would not have left Trump as a monarch dansolo Jan 2021 #69

Not many, but the top 3 were there and the remaining others are all pres appointments themaguffin Jan 2021 #70

What Trump wanted .. . people Jan 2021 #78

K&R UCmeNdc Jan 2021 #83

Look, if you pay attention to Q, Alex Jones and other types of conspiracism... station agent Jan 2021 #85

What is zip tie guys up to?Did he come prepared to tie up some congress people? UCmeNdc Jan 2021 #89

Trump did not plan this. Perhaps Miller, or one of the others, but not Trump. Caliman73 Jan 2021 #90

The problem with this thread misanthrope Jan 2021 #93

Not true. Not ALL the people in line of succession were there Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2021 #97

KnR Hekate Jan 2021 #98