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Dark n Stormy Knight

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209. Thanks for the info. I wish DU had a kind of General Discussion stickey area or similar

Fri Jan 8, 2021, 11:14 PM

Jan 2021

where laws and rules relevant to current events could give a quick reference for us. So often many of us jump on the bandwagon, out of righteous anger reccing OPs that reflect a poor understanding of such things. I'd volunteer to organize of submit items, but I don't believe I have the expertise necessary.

Sure, people can google stuff on their own, but so often conflicting info is found that way.

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Folks PLEASE! STOP attacking the Dems for not impeaching TODAY [View all] StarfishSaver Jan 2021 OP

Thank you. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #1

Another reason why DownriverDem Jan 2021 #92

There should be a civics requirement for every high school diploma dlk Jan 2021 #120

The last four years Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #134

Exactly dlk Jan 2021 #150

Thank you for that. Very helpful! n/t Pobeka Jan 2021 #2

Thanks. The other thread was a disgrace. BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #3

I must have missed it. I have not wnylib Jan 2021 #62

The only disgrace orangecrush Jan 2021 #91

Stomping your feet and attacking Dems because it's not happening today is a fucking disgrace. BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #125

It shows. orangecrush Jan 2021 #156

Amen, BannonsLiver. soldierant Jan 2021 #202

Thank you for posting this sagesnow Jan 2021 #4

THIS malaise Jan 2021 #5

I Read It Is For The Death Of The Capitol Police Officer COL Mustard Jan 2021 #72

It is. nt oldsoftie Jan 2021 #179

Yep onenote Jan 2021 #6

Republicans have to pull the trigger on this one. Under The Radar Jan 2021 #7

Yes, once again relying on gop to do the right thing...which almost never works. This time though, wiggs Jan 2021 #57

I doubt anyone in government Under The Radar Jan 2021 #60

We have to careful that we don't wreck our Democraric principles saving our Democracy ... marble falls Jan 2021 #8

Once again, thank you. sheshe2 Jan 2021 #9

How about this compromise for those who would still demand instant gratification? FreepFryer Jan 2021 #10

And everyone who wasn't has to STFU for 48 hours about it? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #11

Me, too! ShazzieB Jan 2021 #33

The House and Senate are adjourned until after the inaugeration former9thward Jan 2021 #12

Adjournment means they don't have votes but are subject to the call of the chair StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #15

Do you really think that Biden will allow impeachment drama former9thward Jan 2021 #17

Why not? This isn't about a ceremony, this is about the continuation of democracy ... marble falls Jan 2021 #96

He just had a press conference former9thward Jan 2021 #181

+1 chowder66 Jan 2021 #36

tRump can be impeached after Inauguration, I'm told & thus barred from ever holding office again. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #23

No, he can't StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #26

Yes he can. The Constitution allows it. You won't be able to show where it disallows it. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #116

I don't agree with this analysis StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #119

It is an unresolved question. onenote Jan 2021 #194

It's unresolved in the courts, but I don't think a court would ever rule that an ex-president could StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #196

The main thing that stops a Congress from doing what you feat onenote Jan 2021 #208

Where does "barred from ever holding office" come from? CaptainTruth Jan 2021 #78

Technically, as a conviction punishment Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #117

I agree. Really only Pence can save us from some imminent bad act servermsh Jan 2021 #13

That's something I wondered - will the impeachment trial continue if he's out of office? sweetloukillbot Jan 2021 #16

Impeachment does not prevent anyone from running again. former9thward Jan 2021 #18

True, but prison might housecat Jan 2021 #22

Interestingly it doesn't former9thward Jan 2021 #30

I was thinking about very long term prison housecat Jan 2021 #206

That's kind of where I was going sweetloukillbot Jan 2021 #28

The Senate can only bar him from future office AFTER voting to remove him StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #35

No. Once he's out of office, impeachment lapses StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #20

Makes sense - thanks sweetloukillbot Jan 2021 #48

And, this time, force these RWMFs, especially fwvinson Jan 2021 #85

This is another dangerous rule here...if they are both hell bent on doing something, nobody can stop cbdo2007 Jan 2021 #19

I appreciate your calming facts and information. lark Jan 2021 #14

True in normal times, but this is an exigent circumstance housecat Jan 2021 #21

The rules still apply. That's the point of rules. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #27

Thank-you happy feet Jan 2021 #24

Knowing the ball is rollling is Bettie Jan 2021 #25

Didn't we go through this a year ago? mcar Jan 2021 #29

You would think that, wouldn't you? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #38

Mixed Emotions! 3825-87867 Jan 2021 #31

Great post. Wanna put pressure on someone? Pressure Pence and the cabinet to 25th Trumpy. FSogol Jan 2021 #32

Thank you StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #40

this llashram Jan 2021 #34

I'm not in a rush to remove tRump, he is small potatoes & my main objective for him being yaesu Jan 2021 #37

How long would it take to vote on censuring the President? TheRickles Jan 2021 #39

It would take as long as an impeachment vote StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #41

Yeah, but in the meanwhile how about 3825-87867 Jan 2021 #51

Politicians have been condemning Trump out the wazoo StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #53

Not looking for a "dog and pony show" 3825-87867 Jan 2021 #73

Do you have a link that outlines the process? Thanks. TheRickles Jan 2021 #84

Try govinfo.gov. lots of info on house practices. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #90

Thanks, but that site seems to be an archive of documents, with not processes or principles TheRickles Jan 2021 #95

You may be right. I found house practice for impeachment but Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #112

Here are the House rules StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #114

Committee of the Whole House MoonlitKnight Jan 2021 #127

Yes, she can. That's what she's doing StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #128

No need to suspend the rules MoonlitKnight Jan 2021 #158

We are in agreement StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #159

Thanks for your expertise, Moonlit and Starfish, but my question still feels unresolved: TheRickles Jan 2021 #180

Yes, the procedure is pretty much the same. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #182

Thank you, that makes a lot of sense. TheRickles Jan 2021 #184

Censure normally is much quicker and dirtier. Just not right now StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #186

Two perspectives.. GentleAlien Jan 2021 #42

Welcome to DU! AllyCat Jan 2021 #45

Okay. Thank you. This is a helpful explanation. AllyCat Jan 2021 #43

Thank you! As much as I want that murdering, wannabe tyrant gone yesterday, there are procedures niyad Jan 2021 #44

It's like SlogginThroughIt Jan 2021 #46

It's like Nasruddin Jan 2021 #80

an admirable bit of snark stopdiggin Jan 2021 #193

I think we're mainly worried about Dumpy having the nuclear codes. judesedit Jan 2021 #47

Impeaching him today won't take the nuclear codes away from him StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #52

What will? judesedit Jan 2021 #153

A Senate conviction removing him from office or invoking the 25th Amendment taking away his powers StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #155

I strongly disagree. Dems need to get a backbone and get the job done. Red Oak Jan 2021 #49

It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. These are just plain facts. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #55

You know what the plan is? No - you don't. Red Oak Jan 2021 #86

+1 SunSeeker Jan 2021 #157

No. I don't know what the plan is. And neither does anyone else StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #164

Post removed Post removed Jan 2021 #167

Thank you! WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2021 #50

Oh please! KPN Jan 2021 #54

You may be correct Ponietz Jan 2021 #56

Congress can act more quickly only if they have unanimous consent StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #58

Many apparently think so. (Amazing, isn't it?) NurseJackie Jan 2021 #59

It is amazing, isn't it? WinstonSmith4740 Jan 2021 #63

No no and no Nasruddin Jan 2021 #137

Not sure if I agree here, this is uncharted territory for most of Congress anyway GentleAlien Jan 2021 #64

Agreed. This is a new day. Red Oak Jan 2021 #97

Perhaps you should run for Congress given you seem to think you know how this should be done StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #100

Or we could sit on our thumbs - Red Oak Jan 2021 #130

If you think those are the only two options, no wonder your assessment makes no sense StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #132

Krugman Red Oak Jan 2021 #131

I'm just glad the window so small!!! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #188

good article. but says not a single thing about a hard time frame stopdiggin Jan 2021 #195

Perhaps you should call your Congressman and tell him/her how this should be done Nasruddin Jan 2021 #139

Schumer isn't Majority Leader yet mcar Jan 2021 #172

This isn't about whether you agree or not. It's the law. They can't just do whatever they please StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #99

Oh please. The truth is that they are doing political analysis Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #109

Let us not harangue one another and we can converse on Wednesday Ponietz Jan 2021 #65

Exactly. Sure do miss two sided open discussion Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #110

It seems to me sometimes... Ponietz Jan 2021 #124

Lobbyists imho. Perfect clip. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #129

"What's with all the second guessing " TwilightZone Jan 2021 #81

I know I read here last night that a certain member of Congress Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #138

Sigh ... StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #140

I'm just saying Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #144

I agree StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #147

There's a reason she's called "Speaker" of the House. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #149

Random posters on internet sites always know more than the person, mcar Jan 2021 #171

Ordinarily, I'd find it a waste of time to argue with these people StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #176

I appreciate your efforts mcar Jan 2021 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #89

Thanks again for being the voice of reason. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2021 #61

K&R spanone Jan 2021 #66

Thank you, Starfishsaver wendyb-NC Jan 2021 #67

There's just not enough time for impeachment and removal. Lasher Jan 2021 #68

you only need majority in the house. drray23 Jan 2021 #74

You are correct. Lasher Jan 2021 #115

I think people are so utterly angry and disgusted by these nasty people that they want to see IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #69

I understand people are angry and frustrated - I am, too StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #101

You are right. We all need to take a deep breath and allow the process to work itself out. IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #146

Thank you! CaptainTruth Jan 2021 #70

Many of these people don't seem to realize how much they sound like StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #103

Oh BS. I am not pushing for rules to be broken. Get a grip. Red Oak Jan 2021 #141

Why do you think I was referring to you? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #142

Looks like that's what they are doing mcar Jan 2021 #173

+1,000,000 Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #190

ANYTHING in there refute what the OP said? (nt) stopdiggin Jan 2021 #197

We shouldn't be attacking Dems right now PERIOD! n/t AwakeAtLast Jan 2021 #71

Translation:. They have to agree on which bill to introduce Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #76

Cicilline and Ihan drafted two separate bills, neither of which they have yet introduced StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #106

Impeach Trump again so Senate GOP is responsible for 12 days plus 2024 bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #77

I am aware that time is very short, but the process must start, even if it never reaches the Senate. patphil Jan 2021 #79

Thank you! Reality bites sometimes. pandr32 Jan 2021 #82

I missed the other thread Progressive dog Jan 2021 #83

Glad I slept through such attacks. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #87

GUYS, BEST thing to do: calimary Jan 2021 #88

Already done. orangecrush Jan 2021 #94

No one is attacking Democrats. orangecrush Jan 2021 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #98

Thank you! nt SunSeeker Jan 2021 #170

You're welcome! orangecrush Jan 2021 #191

Go back, it always comes down to that accusation. Always. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #187

Yup. orangecrush Jan 2021 #189

It's the swarm/disrupt/squelch strategy Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #198

Yes. orangecrush Jan 2021 #211

How about they work through the weekend? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #102

They ARE working through the weekend StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #107

The RBG replacement felt like two days. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #108

RBG died on September 18. Her hearings began on October 12. was confirmed on October 26 StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #111

Thanks, Star Hekate Jan 2021 #104

Well, yeah. Starfish is right. Just elevating the discussion as has been done PatrickforO Jan 2021 #105

I'm going to trust the leadership to deal with it. BrightKnight Jan 2021 #113

And between the time of the attack and now, there were some minor bureaucratic issues. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #118

NO. They should have stopped everything and voted to impeach right then and there StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #122

Too many times people think what they want can be done with a snap of the fingers. LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #121

And then they want to argue about House rules without even bothering to read them. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #123

The rules are there for a reason. To reduce chaos. LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #133

Funny how some people insist we should just disregard the rules because they think the ends are just StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #135

Article I Nasruddin Jan 2021 #151

Impeachment is a legislative process governed by House rules, not the Constitution (except that the StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #154

Don't forget that the US Capitol is now a crime scene. summer_in_TX Jan 2021 #126

I'd say Pelosi & the House Dems are doing great under the circumstances. backscatter712 Jan 2021 #136

in a crisis situation endangering the very foundations of our democracy & maybe the planet itself OneBlueSky Jan 2021 #143

You could use a less confrontational approach when addressing the entire membership of the forums usajumpedtheshark Jan 2021 #145

Thank you for your advice on how I should express myself StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #148

(sigh) I did not tell you how you "should" communicate usajumpedtheshark Jan 2021 #160

K and R Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #152

Folks PLEASE! STOP attacking the Dems for not impeaching TODAY FelineOverlord Jan 2021 #161

Sounds like he's just as tired as I am of the Dems being criticized for not doing anything StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #162

Hmm. Checks schedule.. Uh no. Can't do it. MyNameGoesHere Jan 2021 #163

TY.. GD.. I'm so sick of Dems being Cha Jan 2021 #165

48 hours after Wednesday's terror attack is today. ecstatic Jan 2021 #166

Thank you. SunSeeker Jan 2021 #168

Kind of hard to draft and pass Articles of Impeachment when you're barricaded in the House chamber StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #177

StarfishSaver PLEASE! STOP attacking the DUers for wanting impeachment TODAY SunSeeker Jan 2021 #169

I agree! Democrats have to toughen up if we're going to undo the harm that trump & mitch have ecstatic Jan 2021 #175

Always happens. Lectures and denigration Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #192

I hear you. This is really not the optimal tool for this job IMO. D23MIURG23 Jan 2021 #174

Exactly StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #183

True. And they won't do that. How would you possibly explain Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #199

Republican senators can come up with a bad excuse for not convicting, if they want one... D23MIURG23 Jan 2021 #212

Great points,! Don't care why or how they got here., Just Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #213

K&R betsuni Jan 2021 #185

IMMEDIATE REMOVAL - that is the phrase that has been used by a large number of people usajumpedtheshark Jan 2021 #200

Even if he were impeached today, there's no way he would be removed before next week StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #201

I agree. I am sure the leadership is doing all they can to achieve removal. usajumpedtheshark Jan 2021 #203

Thank you AmyStrange Jan 2021 #204

House Democrats to Introduce Article of Impeachment Against Trump (on Monday)... AmyStrange Jan 2021 #205

Speaker Pelosi threatens impeachment if Trump refuses to step down 'immediately' AmyStrange Jan 2021 #207

Thanks for the info. I wish DU had a kind of General Discussion stickey area or similar Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #209

Samantha Corbin on Twitter said that they were ready to go this weekend but needed unanimous consent catrose Jan 2021 #210

Well that sucks Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #214