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DonaldsRump

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24. I don't think they can or will hold a conviction trial after Trump is no longer President

Reply to Marcuse (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 06:11 AM

Jan 2021

Specifically, Article II, Section 4 of the US Constitution says this:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

It explicitly applies to "the President", not to a former President. I know there are some recent commentary stating differently (e.g., https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/can-trump-be-tried-senate-impeachment-charges-even-after-he-n1253544), but it seems clear to me that there can't be impeachment and/or conviction when someone is no longer President based on the plain wording of the Constitution: you can't remove someone from an office that they no longer hold.

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CNN Some Republicans will consider voting for second Trump impeachment [View all] Wicked Blue Jan 2021 OP

"some" I hope that means 25 Senators apnu Jan 2021 #1

Nope. 67 Senators needed to convict DonaldsRump Jan 2021 #6

Is it 66 without perdue? jcgoldie Jan 2021 #9

That's a very good point DonaldsRump Jan 2021 #14

All good points, 16 is easier to find than 25. apnu Jan 2021 #15

The trial probably won't start before the inauguration. There will be 100 Senators sitting. Marcuse Jan 2021 #19

I don't think they can or will hold a conviction trial after Trump is no longer President DonaldsRump Jan 2021 #24

It is counterintuitive. Marcuse Jan 2021 #25

Yup sounds like what Trump will be facing at most cstanleytech Jan 2021 #26

The Senate held a trial for a Secretary of War who resigned: NYC Liberal Jan 2021 #27

Excellent! Thank you for posting this DonaldsRump Jan 2021 #28

We need 2/3 of the Senate to convict. Our 48 plus 18 repubs? Kaleva Jan 2021 #8

I would hope King and Sanders would vote for this. AllyCat Jan 2021 #17

Impeach or give every future president power to attack Congress C_U_L8R Jan 2021 #2

The seriousness of this should be a wake up call just what a dangerous situation we are in because still_one Jan 2021 #3

It would actually be a good move for them. It prevents him from ever running for office. marmar Jan 2021 #4

They better consider fast. LisaL Jan 2021 #5

I hear Collins is getting concerned. She will definitely consider this before rejecting it. cbdo2007 Jan 2021 #7

Mighty big of them considering dump endangered ALL their lives! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #10

PUBLIC ENEMY #1 TigressDem Jan 2021 #11

Articles seem reasonable? WTF? blueinredohio Jan 2021 #12

They can all instruct Pence to 25 him, and get him gone. lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #13

Pence won't fall on his sword to protect the GOP dansolo Jan 2021 #16

The MAGATS already want Pence dead. Marcuse Jan 2021 #20

Romney voted to impeach before and will surely do so again. Liberty Belle Jan 2021 #18

I can think of seven offhand: PCIntern Jan 2021 #21

RACHEL MADE A KEY POINT ON THIS writes3000 Jan 2021 #22

Daniel Goldman was on Hayes explaining moonscape Jan 2021 #23