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12. Need to be charged first

Reply to fierywoman (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 9, 2021, 03:34 PM

Jan 2021

which I hope is soon to be coming

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14th Amendment, Section 3. " No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress ... [View all] My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 OP

Expell every last one of the anti American traitors. nt procon Jan 2021 #1

Send Trump and OTHERS OF "HIS ILK" to the moon. Let them live on the black side of moon. trueblue2007 Jan 2021 #39

And there's the "killer"........ MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #2

Apparently a law is not a law if enough people have power in the government... DSandra Jan 2021 #6

And apparently a law is not a law if enforcing it might make the law breakers mad. TryLogic Jan 2021 #40

No. That means they can vote to keep the person if the vote is 2/3 of both houses. BComplex Jan 2021 #9

agree CMYK Jan 2021 #41

Correct...this was included to allow repentant seccessionists to apply for re-admission pecosbob Jan 2021 #51

Think higher! RealityCheque Jan 2021 #3

The President Is Not Specifically Named DallasNE Jan 2021 #44

Points well taken... RealityCheque Jan 2021 #46

That Is The Question DallasNE Jan 2021 #50

At this point, neither chamber has 2/3 of the vote. fierywoman Jan 2021 #4

The 2/3 vote is to allow them to continue sitting, My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #7

Correct. But It Requires DallasNE Jan 2021 #45

Key point "2/3 of those in session" RealityCheque Jan 2021 #47

kick!! onetexan Jan 2021 #5

The 2/3 needed dweller Jan 2021 #8

Sorry -- yes I'm clear that the 2/3 allows them to be seated again. Therefore, fierywoman Jan 2021 #10

Need to be charged first dweller Jan 2021 #12

Merrick Garland My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #14

2/3 of those seated in the session when the vote is called. RealityCheque Jan 2021 #48

Does anyone have enough legal training to help define legal insurection and cally Jan 2021 #11

They don't have to have taken part of the insurrection, My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #13

aid and comfort seem pretty easy to prove flibbitygiblets Jan 2021 #52

Too bad that doesn't include the T media. hedda_foil Jan 2021 #15

They have to be convicted first. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #16

Did the Confederates need to be convicted? My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #17

They were expelled by a 2/3 vote. Without a 2/3 vote to expel, a conviction for insurrection Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #18

Not so. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #20

No, you are wrong. To be expelled, a 2/3 vote is required Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #22

No. You are wrong. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #23

You think the AG can unilaterally disqualify members of Congress? tritsofme Jan 2021 #24

No. But I can imagine the matter being referred to the AG, My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #26

Right...but the AG has no power to unilaterally disqualify members tritsofme Jan 2021 #27

Senate majority leader Schumer requests the AG My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #28

No BGBD Jan 2021 #30

The AG, is not finding whether they are guilty of a crime My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #33

Referring to the AG means referring for prosecution, not for a determination StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #54

So who would make the determination? My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #56

A court StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #58

Understood. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #59

YW StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #60

So supposing McConnell, this afternoon, were to ask Acting AG Whoever tritsofme Jan 2021 #31

I have been arguing in good faith. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #35

If you think the AG possesses such spectacular power, it begs the question as to why Trump's tritsofme Jan 2021 #38

We are talking about two different things- Confederates were expelled by 2/3 vote Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #29

I disagree. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #32

The US senate website states they were "expelled" which is defined in the Constitution as requiring Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #37

Where does the 14th Amendment refer to a crime or conviction? My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #53

It's contained in another part of the 14th - the Due Process Clause StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #55

Got it. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #57

That was my entire point- without a conviction they have grounds for appeal. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #61

The secessionists were expelled before the 14th Amendment. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #25

Perhaps you should take this up with Speaker Pelosi and Maj. Leader Schumer... brooklynite Jan 2021 #19

The matter will rest with AG Garland. My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #21

I'm equally confident that no member of Congress will face charges brooklynite Jan 2021 #34

Charges are not necessary My Pet Orangutan Jan 2021 #36

My bet is that no member of congress will be charged or expelled. TryLogic Jan 2021 #43

Section 3 of the 14th Amendment was adopted specifically to deal with the Civil War onenote Jan 2021 #42

It could be applied there BGBD Jan 2021 #49