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RoccoR5955

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33. I'm glad that you think your paper ballot gets counted, because it rarely does.

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:07 AM

Oct 2012

When you request a paper ballot in NY State, you get a provisional ballot. These ballots are only counted if the machine counts are very close. I know that this is SOP in both Dutchess and Ulster counties. I do know that all counties in the state were mandated to buy these new machines, whether they wanted to or not.

I have been working with voting machines since before these computerized ones came into play. I have been managing a 2000 user network since I built it from a "pup" almost 20 years ago. I can tell you for certain that the database (Microsoft SQL) can be hacked via SQL injection, or any other means. It can be altered to flip results, and nobody will ever know that it happened, unless they examine the entire code.

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Voting Machines Can be Hacked by Remote Control ...Salon [View all] Kurovski Oct 2012 OP

We need paper ballots and bkkyosemite Oct 2012 #1

I'm so proud that my county (Columbia County, NY) hand counts paper ballots eggplant Oct 2012 #18

I'm glad that you think your paper ballot gets counted, because it rarely does. RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #33

See this article from BradBlog eggplant Oct 2012 #36

It's good to see RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #37

is it still legal to ask for a paper ballot, instead of using the machines? Kurovski Oct 2012 #2

The absentees are counted by the same company that makes the hackable machines..... robinlynne Oct 2012 #25

oh god... Kurovski Oct 2012 #28

Wasn't remote. "It was carried out by inserting a piece of inexpensive �alien electronics� jtuck004 Oct 2012 #3

And cameras or zylaphones, or whatever you durn kids take pictures with. Kurovski Oct 2012 #6

Ironically, it is illegal to bring/use a camera when you vote. eggplant Oct 2012 #19

why am I recalling video of voter intimidation? Kurovski Oct 2012 #21

There is a spectacular group called video the vote. they document voting. robinlynne Oct 2012 #26

I meant specifically *in* the booth (recording your actual vote) eggplant Oct 2012 #31

Any IT tech can tell you that Microsoft Net Meeting Submariner Oct 2012 #4

well a big fat 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #5

this was all discussed at length for years. Many people just claimed Kurovski Oct 2012 #8

in fact, at the end of the article, there is a link Kurovski Oct 2012 #10

yes, but nothing has been done about it. 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #13

Yeah, I know! that Ricky Ricardo...what a card! Kurovski Oct 2012 #17

Ricky Ricardo? 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #23

Post 10 Kurovski Oct 2012 #32

We need paper ballots. Surely someone can go to court and get an order for these. McCamy Taylor Oct 2012 #7

sure makes you wonder why the dems haven't taken up the issue 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #15

We knew 10 years ago that the electronic voting machines could be hacked various ways. RC Oct 2012 #9

Because SALON didn't want to hear it 10 years ago. Glitterati Oct 2012 #12

thank you. I felt like a bleedin' battered spouse for three years Kurovski Oct 2012 #16

Yeah, lots of nefarious things Glitterati Oct 2012 #24

Yup. The only way election fraud will ever be taken seriously, KitSileya Oct 2012 #38

it seems there is improved equipment in Venezeula. Maybe. Who knows. Kurovski Oct 2012 #14

It's not that hard to build a trustable electronic voting device. TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #39

Actually it's worse than that. Most of the OLD methodologies still work. TheMadMonk Oct 2012 #34

Another thing. The software now is propitiatory. It needs to be open source. RC Oct 2012 #40

From Boris Bazhanov's 'Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary' Unknown Beatle Oct 2012 #11

GET OUT THE VOTE, my friends! Kurovski Oct 2012 #20

Romney�s buddies from Bain are connected to Hart Intercivic which makes voting machines... L0oniX Oct 2012 #22

+1000000000000000000 everyone needs to know about Hart Intercivic & the Romney connection flamingdem Oct 2012 #30

The US doesn't need any outside influence to F us up. The US is very capable of RKP5637 Oct 2012 #27

We go through this every damn election and yet the stupidity continues! Damn I RKP5637 Oct 2012 #29

Even though these machines and the programs on them can be hacked. RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #35

We are totally insane to have allowed these machines into our voting procedures. INSANE. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #41

I can't undersdtand WHY "Transparent, Verifiable Elections" ... bvar22 Oct 2012 #42

Maybe one day we'll know that reason why it isn't all that important to them. Kurovski Oct 2012 #43