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Impeachment will break the Republican Party. [View all]

Impeachment for insurrection will break the republican party. That's why they're begging Biden to call off the vote.

Individual Republicans have two options:

Vote to convict and piss off every lunatic on their side, likely fracturing the party, but maintaining some integrity.
Vote to acquit, and lose ALL CREDIBILITY, likely fracturing the party.

Both options are terrible for political futures. That's why they might beg Pence for mercy and get him to invoke the 25th amendment.

Realistically, the republican party needs to take out their trash, starting with Trump, Hawley, and a bunch of others but they don't have the appetite for that.

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Impeachment will break the Republican Party. [View all] Renew Deal Jan 2021 OP

they riled up over nothing, impeachment means nothing really. there will be no conviction nt msongs Jan 2021 #1

Exactly. I don't get why people would expect the republicans to suddenly change their tunes now Claustrum Jan 2021 #7

Yes. I mean, they could be instead focusing on Biden's impeachment. LiberalLovinLug Jan 2021 #83

Maybe there wouldn't be a conviction... Silent3 Jan 2021 #22

Absolutely! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #50

He would only be prevented from holding wnylib Jan 2021 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #69

Because there isn't time for a Senate wnylib Jan 2021 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #88

2 impeachments makes great campaign ads Captain Zero Jan 2021 #61

I disagree. A party with its last president twice-impeached is considerably weakened... brush Jan 2021 #29

I agree it will put great pressure on them servermsh Jan 2021 #2

Proceed Blue Owl Jan 2021 #3

The 25th doesn't preclude impeachment exboyfil Jan 2021 #4

I agree, but Democrats are saying they won't impeach if Trump is removed another way. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #9

While republicans would love not to see a candidate Trump in 2024, Claustrum Jan 2021 #17

Another reason for impeaching him anyway, and seeking Senate conviction crickets Jan 2021 #74

It is looking more likely a Ferdinand Marcos or Idi Amin exboyfil Jan 2021 #75

Point taken, and until this week I would have agreed with you. crickets Jan 2021 #79

25 or IMPEACH. roamer65 Jan 2021 #5

25 AND impeach! Generic Brad Jan 2021 #36

THIS. roamer65 Jan 2021 #37

I want that in a tshirt. MontanaMama Jan 2021 #56

THIS! 👆 nt. Dem2theMax Jan 2021 #58

They could beg Pence for mercy leftieNanner Jan 2021 #6

Pence is done and he knows it. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #12

He's like the guy falling from skyscraper Nasruddin Jan 2021 #65

They really shouldn't have painted themselves into that corner, then. But they did. Squinch Jan 2021 #8

That is, I believe, what is called a "bonus" RockRaven Jan 2021 #10

I know!!! Let's make it happen! nt Phoenix61 Jan 2021 #11

One can hope. milestogo Jan 2021 #13

How in the World Do You See Voting to Acquit as "Maintaining Some Integrity"? The Roux Comes First Jan 2021 #14

Sorry, had it out of order. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #19

I strongly believe Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant The empressof all Jan 2021 #15

That's why Nancy is pushing for impeachment. LuvNewcastle Jan 2021 #16

Lay down with dogs UpInArms Jan 2021 #18

The daddy party always rises again. Buzz cook Jan 2021 #20

I agree. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #24

This could lead to a split though. There are the never-trumpers... brush Jan 2021 #39

Then they better start leaning on pence Salviati Jan 2021 #21

You nailed it. William769 Jan 2021 #23

GOP is all in on the coup. Republicans are hoping to just run out the clock; Trump has other plans. badboy67 Jan 2021 #25

Exactly. A trial run. nt littlemissmartypants Jan 2021 #73

I don't think all of them are, but enough are far too sanguine about what happened. crickets Jan 2021 #76

Up or down vote. C_U_L8R Jan 2021 #26

This is why I think he will be convicted. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #28

The Republican Party is already broke BGBD Jan 2021 #27

This 👆🏼 dweller Jan 2021 #35

Nailed it. crickets Jan 2021 #71

Rs could simply not attend the Senate trial. Conviction happens with a 2/3 majority stopbush Jan 2021 #30

That's an interesting concept. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #32

It's a non-vote. Lawrence Tribe was on Lawrence last night. stopbush Jan 2021 #33

Okay, cool. 2naSalit Jan 2021 #31

Wishful thinking. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #34

careful with those polls...... getagrip_already Jan 2021 #45

Things I've looked at actually show the Independent contingent gaining ground littlemissmartypants Jan 2021 #78

Suppose 25 or thirty of them suddenly had a family emergency flotsam Jan 2021 #84

they definitely don't want it KayF Jan 2021 #38

Elise Stefanik R-NY 21 mgardener Jan 2021 #40

trade deal monkeyman1 Jan 2021 #41

Now there is an idea Ani Yun Wiya Jan 2021 #67

As usual the world's in turmoil over Trump's drama bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #42

Republicans need to do what they did with Nixon. SunSeeker Jan 2021 #43

That only works if republicans agree to come back early for impeachment. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #47

They can still vote to convict after the Biden takes over. GulfCoast66 Jan 2021 #52

I don't think the worst is here yet. We have no choice but to impeach. Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #44

3rd option, they can skip the vote which would make it easier for Dems to reach the 2/3rds threshold yaesu Jan 2021 #46

Exactly 👆 Don't show up-- claim you got the 'Rona if you have to flibbitygiblets Jan 2021 #51

Chaos is the goal. He's a psychopath. It's a feature not a bug. littlemissmartypants Jan 2021 #77

"...but they don't have the spine for that." FIFY BadgerMom Jan 2021 #48

A life of ruin for a known buffoon world wide wally Jan 2021 #49

Exactly. They need to own up to their part of this mayhem. Silence is not going to cut it. Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #53

The public will not drop this subject for years to come, there is too much to come out bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #54

Impeachment needs to happen NHvet Jan 2021 #55

A lot of these treasonists who only seek power and money ToxMarz Jan 2021 #59

I like the way you think Nasruddin Jan 2021 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author Kablooie Jan 2021 #62

You discard all your values for short term gratification and someday the payment will come due. Kablooie Jan 2021 #63

Convict him or not, I don't care. Get their vote on record. keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #64

FINISH THEM. GETPLANING Jan 2021 #66

Get them on their knees and kick the living shit out of them. That's what they NCjack Jan 2021 #68

Calling for the 25th to head off impeachment is a brilliant idea, BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #70

Fracture away! They deserve nothing less. nt littlemissmartypants Jan 2021 #72

Lie down with dogs... Xolodno Jan 2021 #80

Good take on the repukes and impeachment! burrowowl Jan 2021 #81

I want the entire 140 on paper history demmands to see how they stand Historic NY Jan 2021 #82

What if they don't show up for the vote? nt Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #85

No. Crazy republicans broke the republican party. They need to own up on the monsters they created. Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #87

I agree Renew Deal Jan 2021 #89

Me neither. I think they fundamentally feel that if they admit any wrongdoing whatsoever Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #90

GOP senators can just stay away from the trial for conviction... AntiFascist Jan 2021 #91

GOOD malaise Jan 2021 #92