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In reply to the discussion: The idea of waiting to send the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate is brilliant [View all]
Ponietz
(4,225 posts)119. Ah...the rope-a-dope trick
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The idea of waiting to send the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate is brilliant [View all]
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
OP
There is another reason too: for the future, making it clear that inciting a coup against the US...
CousinIT
Jan 2021
#34
No. The Former Presidents act denies benefits only to presidents who have been removed from office
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#48
I'm pretty sure he'll be prevented from running again, one way or another. nt
Progressive Jones
Jan 2021
#174
Interesting insight and true, but if "it relieves the Republicans" would we be helping them?
KS Toronado
Jan 2021
#77
Him running again would screw things up for the republiCONs and help our side. IMHO
KS Toronado
Jan 2021
#167
HH said that once convicted, it takes a majority to disqualify them. That is correct.
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#49
That's part of it, but if its stalled for any reason, it's over, while...
TreasonousBastard
Jan 2021
#20
Only if you care about the immediate safety of the nation over your tribe's interests
misanthrope
Jan 2021
#123
Holding the articles until the Democrats control the Senate is more than "gamesmanship."
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#141
But the issue is that there is no chance in hell he'll be removed from office before his term ends
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#159
Yes. And then Democrats should vote to send the impeachment investigation to committee.
servermsh
Jan 2021
#2
Those consequences only attach if he is convicted and removed from office
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#26
And I guess if trump and company pull anything it could dramaticaaly increase the pressure to act
captain queeg
Jan 2021
#9
He'll already be gone when the Senate takes up impeachment, even if they send the articles today
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#29
Yes, it's possible. And if it passes the Senate it would still stop Trump from running for federal
highplainsdem
Jan 2021
#24
I don't think he can be impeached after he leaves office. But he can be convicted
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#31
They will impeach ... BEFORE .. his term is over. The Senate Trial can happen later
uponit7771
Jan 2021
#168
Are you advocating that the House vote to impeach now but Pelosi withhold the Articles until Biden
in2herbs
Jan 2021
#25
Only disqualified from holding a future office? and not stripped of his salary and benefits? will
in2herbs
Jan 2021
#47
I understand that a criminal complaint is separate and apart from impeachment I just put it out
in2herbs
Jan 2021
#59
Convicting him after he leaves office would allow them to disqualify him from holding office in the
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#63
Mitch can dispose of the impeachment so that it's gone by the time Schumer takes control
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#60
He can hold a vote on the 20th to dismiss the impeachment when they come back into session
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#67
If McConnell won't reconvene until the 19th, then yes, it makes sense to hold off.
tinrobot
Jan 2021
#36
Those 10 days of unrestrained power will happen anyway, no matter when the Articles are sent
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#50
As long as they impeach him this week, I'll trust they know the best road
Roisin Ni Fiachra
Jan 2021
#61
Under a new administration, subpoenas will actually be honored and enforced again.
mackdaddy
Jan 2021
#62
He won't lose his pension or Secret Service, but can be disqualified from future office
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#66
Would he not loose his pardon power on these charges as soon as he is impeached?
mackdaddy
Jan 2021
#70
So what does the "except in cases of impeachment" actually stop the president from doing?
mackdaddy
Jan 2021
#82
It prevents a president from using his pardon power to prevent an impeachment
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#99
It also gives time to censure and possibly expel the Congressional traitorous enablers
Fiendish Thingy
Jan 2021
#68
Do you understand the difference between impeachment in the House and the trial in the Senate?
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#73
That's why Pelosi has set a time of Monday for removing Trump so that's a done deal the rest of it
uponit7771
Jan 2021
#169
When I heard Clyburn say that this morning I thought the same thing. They can still convict him....
George II
Jan 2021
#75
Agree, you can't trust McConnell when his eyes are open, nor when they're closed
bucolic_frolic
Jan 2021
#89
Only brilliant in part as Dumpy is a complete and total danger to this country
judesedit
Jan 2021
#91
What is ironic about this is that Trump screwed the GA Republicans allowing Dems to get the Senate
Quixote1818
Jan 2021
#166
When did Khanna say that Pelosi would be wrong not to send the Articles to the Senate immediately
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#177
I believe McConnell made it clear that he would start a trial on the 19th...
AntiFascist
Jan 2021
#181
I doubt they will wait 100 days. I think that's just a number they threw out
StarfishSaver
Jan 2021
#184
If the House waited until the 20th or 21st then McConnell would not have control...
AntiFascist
Jan 2021
#185