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ElboRuum

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11. Well, that was the point of the encroachment on ownership I was using as an example.

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 02:09 PM

Oct 2012

Once upon a time, the concept of buying the rights to use something but not own it (licensing) had to do with reuse or inclusion of prior art within another work, technology, et al. to produce another product. This usually was a large one-time fee for use or a royalty-based model. Licensing as later adopted by the software industry extended the idea of licensing to include the end-user of a product. This is a relatively new concept in "ownership", its popularity dating only as far back as nascent Microsoft (Bill Gates was one of the first to adopt a licensing rather than ownership model in software distributed to so-called "end-users&quot .

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So you thought you could sell the things you own? Yeah, about that... [View all] ElboRuum Oct 2012 OP

Thanks for OP'ing this, K&R n/t PowerToThePeople Oct 2012 #1

Interesting, so if you buy something it is not really yours to do with what you wish. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #2

And I think that's just it... ElboRuum Oct 2012 #6

Strange this isn't being settled in lower court leftstreet Oct 2012 #3

Is software licensing at issue here? LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #4

Yes but if I remove the software from my own computer I can sell it, which is essentially the same cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #7

Unfortunately, it was ruled that that is copyright infringement: See Vernor v. Autodesk, Inc. Poll_Blind Oct 2012 #23

Wow, I stand corrected. Apologies to LiberalAndProud. n/t cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #25

I wish to hell you were right, though. Seriously, if "first sale" is being chipped away at... Poll_Blind Oct 2012 #32

So my thrift store is violating the law by selling computer games??? Odin2005 Oct 2012 #33

Not violating the law...infringing on copyright. There's a difference. Plus, it really depends... Poll_Blind Oct 2012 #34

Ebooks come to mind. You can't even loan out an ebook for more than 14 days! nt tblue37 Oct 2012 #9

Bingo! My first thought upon reading this post SheilaT Oct 2012 #19

me too. and libraries are joining in that trend, which bothers me no end. when there are no HiPointDem Oct 2012 #28

In a college library in 1979 I discovered bound issues SheilaT Oct 2012 #30

Well, that was the point of the encroachment on ownership I was using as an example. ElboRuum Oct 2012 #11

The case is about a physical item. n/t PowerToThePeople Oct 2012 #12

I'm truly confused. LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #14

furniture designs are copywritten, hence legally so is the furniture. TeamPooka Oct 2012 #21

So who would police this? Skidmore Oct 2012 #5

That's one of the bits of silly that I thought might flow out of upholding this... ElboRuum Oct 2012 #8

If it's upheld, can you give your old software away? LiberalAndProud Oct 2012 #10

Depends on what a claimant could ask for in payment... ElboRuum Oct 2012 #13

They'll figure out something Hydra Oct 2012 #15

It depends on how absurd a given license is Posteritatis Oct 2012 #16

Back in the early 1990's, when I had my first computer, SheilaT Oct 2012 #20

with bar codes and such, the technology to police it is being set in place, i imagine. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #29

Then it's not your problem to dispose of their possessions AnnaLee Oct 2012 #17

More of that quantum weirdness in what you just said... ElboRuum Oct 2012 #18

Happening with fabrics too KT2000 Oct 2012 #22

So will I be arrested if I destroy "their" crap? Generic Other Oct 2012 #24

Anyone who sells second hand would close down. McCamy Taylor Oct 2012 #26

In the dawn of the tech age I remember reading something that spoke to this. It was HiPointDem Oct 2012 #27

LOL!!!! I know someone trying to sell their Honda. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #31

It's not just software, it's theoretically everything Marthe48 Oct 2012 #35