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Are_grits_groceries

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Mon Oct 8, 2012, 07:24 AM Oct 2012

My answer to ALL of you who want secession in some form. (And my hair is on fire!) [View all]


There was a war fought to keep the country together.

And why on Earth do you want to just ignore the many people who don't deserve such a fate?

And what about those western states and others that are bright red? Giving them a pass? Some of them are home to some of the most virulent militias ever.
Look in your own damn back yard and turn over some rocks. You might be unpleasantly surprised what you find? As I remember, Boston had a time integrating their schools.

In addition, you are hearing the loudest and most ignorant voices here. They are frantic and getting louder because they can read the tea leaves. They are doing everything in their power to entrench themselves. It would be easier to get rid of chiggers all over your body.

So, meh to you, that book, and everyone who wants us gone. We ain't going anywhere. Help those of us who are working in horrible conditions to move forward. I didn't live through the awful '60s and the hard won rights for people in these states to watch everyone shrug and say let them go.

MLK would be ashamed of everyone of you! Find a book of his speeches and writings and try to catch a clue. Read his 'Letter From The Birmingham Jail!' Bobby Kennedy would give a 'Come To Jesus' sermon that would never be forgotten to all who want secession and call themselves progressives or whatever.
Medgar Evers
Schwerner, Chaney, and Goodman
Emmitt Till
And remember these people too. Explain to their relatives why you want us gone.
The 40 Who Fell in the Turbulence Of the U.S. Battles for Civil Rights
A civil rights memorial to be dedicated Sunday includes the names of the 40 people killed in the movement. The list, in chronological sequence, gives the date and circumstances of the person's death as described on the memorial. LEE, the Rev. George, killed May 7, 1955, for leading a voter registration drive in Belzoni, Miss. SMITH, Lamar, 63 years old, slain Aug. 13, 1955, for organizing black voters in Brookhaven, Miss. TILL, Emmett Louis, 14, slain Aug. 28, 1955, for speaking to a white woman in Money, Miss. REESE, John Earl, 16, slain Oct. 22, 1955, by nightriders opposed to black school improvements in Mayflower, Tex. EDWARDS, Willie Jr., killed Jan. 23, 1957, by the Ku Klux Klan in Montgomery, Ala. PARKER, Mack Charles, 23, taken from a jail and lynched April 25, 1959, in Poplarville, Miss. LEE, Herbert, 50, voter registration worker, killed Sept. 25, 1961, by a white legislator in Liberty, Miss. DUCKSWORTH, Roman Jr., taken from bus and killed April 9, 1962, by the police in Taylorsville, Miss. GUIHARD, Paul, a European reporter, killed Sept. 30, 1962, in a riot at University of Mississippi in Oxford, Miss. MOORE, William Lewis, slain April 23, 1963, in a one-man march against segregation in Attalla, Ala. EVERS, Medgar, 28, civil rights leader, assassinated June 12, 1963, in Jackson, Miss. COLLINS, Addie Mae, 14, killed Sept. 15, 1963, in the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Ala. MCNAIR, Denise, 11, killed Sept. 15, 1963, in the Birmingham church bombing. ROBERTSON, Carole, 14, killed Sept. 15, 1963, in the church bombing. WESLEY, Cynthia, 14, killed Sept. 15, 1963, in the church bombing. WARE, Virgil Lamar, 13, killed Sept. 15, 1963, in a wave of racist violence in Birmingham, Ala. ALLEN, Louis, witness to the killing of a civil rights worker, assassinated Jan. 31, 1964, in Liberty, Miss. KLUNDER, the Rev. Bruce, killed April 7, 1964, protesting the construction of a segregated school in Cleveland. DEE, Henry Hezekiah, 19, killed May 2, 1964, by the Klan in Meadville, Miss. MOORE, Charles Eddie, 20, killed May 2, 1964, by the Klan in Meadville, Miss. CHANEY, James, 21, civil rights worker, abducted and slain June 21, 1964, by the Klan in Philadelphia, Miss. GOODMAN, Andrew, civil rights worker, abducted and slain June 21, 1964, by the Klan in Philadelphia, Miss. SCHWERNER, Michael, 24, rights worker, abducted and slain June 21, 1964, by the Klan in Philadelphia, Miss. PENN, Lemuel, 48, killed July 11, 1964, by the Klan while driving through Colbert, Ga. JACKSON, Jimmie Lee, civil rights marcher, killed Feb. 26, 1965, by a state trooper in Marion, Ala. REEB, the Rev. James, march volunteer, beaten to death on March 11, 1965 in Selma, Ala. LIUZZO, Viola Gregg, 39, killed March 25, 1965, by the Ku Klux Klan while transporting marchers on a highway near Selma, Ala. MOORE, Oneal, 34, black deputy, killed June 2, 1965, by nightriders in Varnado, La. BREWSTER, Willie Wallace, 38, killed July 18, 1965, by nightriders in Anniston, Ala. DANIELS, Jonathan, 26, seminary student, killed Aug. 20, 1965, by a part-time deputy in Hayneville, Ala. YOUNGE, Samuel Jr., student civil rights worker, killed Jan. 3, 1966, in a dispute over a whites-only restroom in Tuskegee, Ala. DAHMER, Vernon, black community leader, killed Jan. 10, 1966, in a Klan bombing in Hattiesburg, Miss. WHITE, Ben Chester, 67, killed June 10, 1966, by the Klan in Natchez, Miss. TRIGGS, Clarence, slain July 30, 1966, by nightriders in Bogalusa, La. JACKSON, Wharlest, 37, civil rights leader, killed Feb. 27, 1967, after promotion to ''white'' job in Natchez, Miss. BROWN, Benjamin, 22, civil rights worker, killed May 12, 1967, when the police fired on protesters in Jackson, Miss. HAMMOND, Samuel Jr., 18, killed Feb. 8, 1968, when highway patrolmen fired on protesters in Orangeburg, S.C. MIDDLETON, Delano, 17, killed Feb. 8, 1968, in the Orangeburg shootings. SMITH, Henry, student killed Feb. 8, 1968, in the Orangeburg shootings. KING, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther Jr., 39, assassinated April 4, 1968 in Memphis.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/04/us/the-40-who-fell-in-the-turbulence-of-the-us-battles-for-civil-rights.html

MEH!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gee, I live in Florida. djean111 Oct 2012 #1
Yes HankyDub Oct 2012 #20
Do you think the corporations will stop coming for you in your Blue states? Think again! Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #29
Nah HankyDub Oct 2012 #34
No argument here, I get tired of the Bubba mentality of the Fox propaganda machine! Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #79
No Thanks. bvar22 Oct 2012 #47
that was some sweeeet outrage HankyDub Oct 2012 #72
Bless you! We love having y'all down here! ncgrits Oct 2012 #78
Didn't Florida go for Obama? nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #56
I am in fact meh about this..since it won't be happening any time soon or more likely ever.. pipoman Oct 2012 #2
My 'meh' Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #3
There are words not fit for this forum...? Whiskeytide Oct 2012 #35
If I don't want the thread locked.nt Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #43
Who wants secession now? n/t TreasonousBastard Oct 2012 #4
Go back through some of the OPs Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #6
Oh, yeah. I never take that stuff seriously... TreasonousBastard Oct 2012 #10
It wasn't the idea of 'union' in itself that animated Lincoln's thought. Rather, it was coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #38
True dat, and I'm aware of the realization that if the Confederacy could... TreasonousBastard Oct 2012 #58
Well, I too have been caught on occasion (by my wife mostly), saying coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #61
Isn't that merely a reaction to Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #13
If Texas were to secede, Austin would be like West Berlin!nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #60
I prefer Aerows Oct 2012 #77
I do. Sirveri Oct 2012 #81
Brava! Thank you for this! LiberalLoner Oct 2012 #5
i'd bet that EVERY state barbtries Oct 2012 #14
You think? Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #62
While there is something to be said for Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #7
And YOU and your ilk are the reason I wrote this. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #8
Me and my ilk? Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #31
Why in the world did you drag in Lex Luthor? Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #45
Grits. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #54
Frustrations! Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 #64
I agree with some of what you said. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #65
Gee, Tell that to the Chinese, French, Spainiards DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #30
Genuine unity is great Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #48
You know, this past weekend in Des Moines there was an Un-caucus in which people of all political Skidmore Oct 2012 #51
It wasn't cynicism Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #55
It is cynical because you totally have written off the people of this nation as being incapable Skidmore Oct 2012 #63
I can't wait to see how you react Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #68
I live in a rural community where there are many evangelicals and other conservatives among us. Skidmore Oct 2012 #69
Sure it can be done...when people are ready Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #70
funny how allthe other states I mentioned DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #67
I don't think there will be a civil war Marrah_G Oct 2012 #9
Would it even be a "civil war?" oldhippie Oct 2012 #15
true Marrah_G Oct 2012 #17
"Separatism" Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #19
You are buying the South's frame - Confederate apologists call it 'The War Between the States'. But coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #40
I call it "The War of Northern Aggression" .... oldhippie Oct 2012 #42
Please rest assured that the slaves did not view it as coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #44
The Federal Government would be more effective if one of our political parties,... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #18
Frankly I don't think the party system can be fixed Marrah_G Oct 2012 #49
Mitch McConnell said,... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #71
My answer: Don't help the "extremists" break up the USA to steal all the public land and minerals Coyotl Oct 2012 #11
It won't be secession; it will be a nasty, brother-against-sister religious war... arendt Oct 2012 #12
So you suggest we just let the entire country turn into a fascist hell-hole? Doctor_J Oct 2012 #16
LOL @ turn the Wild West "into one big Mississippi" - that is an image I will coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #46
What I find hilarious is the same folks who hate the idea of a tyrannical federal government,... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #21
I think of this often, I live in the south and since my first campaign have SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #22
What inspired this? nt Javaman Oct 2012 #23
I don't think southern States should secede davidthegnome Oct 2012 #24
If the Democratic Party would allocate some funds to Southern States bvar22 Oct 2012 #52
Yeah... Dean is awesome davidthegnome Oct 2012 #59
I get tired of some here wanting to get rid of my state. It gets old. I am an American before Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #25
As was Ann Richards and some of our greatest Dem's, orpupilofnature57 Oct 2012 #32
The problem is kentauros Oct 2012 #36
These racist assholes make me ashamed to be white. judesedit Oct 2012 #26
Oh yeah, and... davidthegnome Oct 2012 #27
Antebellum is a mental disease, not an Era . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2012 #28
How do we maintain unity? porphyrian Oct 2012 #33
Let me condense that down for you. bvar22 Oct 2012 #73
Are you saying that Democrats and republicans should unite against the 1%? porphyrian Oct 2012 #74
No. bvar22 Oct 2012 #75
Really? Start at Free Republic. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #76
To all those who love the small nation idea DonCoquixote Oct 2012 #37
I just moved back home from a 3 year stint in TX.. bamacrat Oct 2012 #39
They would never dare succeed now Drale Oct 2012 #41
Those A1 Abrams tanks didn't help much in Iraq nor in coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #50
The Irregular forces in Iraq and Afghanistan Drale Oct 2012 #53
Plus, the John Brown attack at Harper's Ferry had caused coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #57
Are you aware.. SQUEE Oct 2012 #66
"Secessionists" are number three on my "Bless Your Little Heart" list. LanternWaste Oct 2012 #80
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