My answer to ALL of you who want secession in some form. (And my hair is on fire!)

[DonCoquixote]

37. To all those who love the small nation idea

I give four answers: China, Russia, India and Brazil. Yes, these nations have problems based on their many ethinic groups, but they have also gotten stronger, namely because they realize that without national unity, the Europeans and their by products (namely we Yanks) would still treat them like thrid world countries. Now, they are in a position to start swinging the bat around, because they realize that when you can act united, you prevent people from f__king with you.

Now, we all know the CSA will be opened up as a corporate feeding trough. That is not merely bad for the Southerners, but also bad for us, as those Union folks in California and New York will have to compete against literal slave labor. For those who say "Oh they would never bring it back",allow me to share an ancedote. When I went to the "Laura" planatation in Louisiana, they explained how many Blacks were kept in the same slave cabins, and used a line that said since they were charged for food and board, they owed the owner...generation after generation was kept in the same slave area as their great great grandparents. They even showed the cabin of the most famous resident, a man named Antoine "Fats" Domino. They were also quick to point out that this system was replaced by Mexican migrant work...as if this was progress, and noted that those workers still lived in the same damn cabins, even though they had running water now. Of course, while the New Yorkers and Californians will sneer at this while drinking their Brazilian orange juice, they will gleefully skip over the fact that they let this happen, until of course, their jobs get outsourced to the new Chinese built plant in Tennessee. And let us not even look at the way the CSA will make mischief in Latin America, and ignore still the fact that the Latinos are not going to buy this excuse that "oh, we Yankeees did not do it, it was those Dixie people" when they know full well we had the means to stop them, and failed.

Let us also write out the fact that the red/blue debate is really a rural/city debate. Most cities in Dixie are as blue as New York. While ther rural north spews out the Chris Christies and Michelle Bachmanns. Even a place like Texas manages to make the likes of Molly Ivins, Kris Kristofferson and Jim Hightower. Yeah, I bring up that point often, because I keep hearing some"liberals" on here ignore that fact, despite the fact that the three Imentioned have some of the hardest, stiffest left hooks around. I will take these three over a milquetoast like Maureen Dowd any day.