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duforsure

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9. As long as there isn't a complete list given,

Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 19, 2021, 08:58 AM

Jan 2021

He can corrupt that power, claiming they were pardoned by him before he left office, and write their name down on a piece of paper, , and without a full list might do it to raise more money with it. Trump if given the chance will exploit anything for money for himself.

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What's stopping trump from selling more pardons after he leaves office, [View all] duforsure Jan 2021 OP

Ppl can claim anything..courts will want proof Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #1

He could write their name down on a piece of paper claiming proof. duforsure Jan 2021 #4

Nope. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #27

Well he won't be President? pwb Jan 2021 #2

I think the area of concern is so-called "secret pardons"... JHB Jan 2021 #8

So invented thoughts need action? Secret pardons? pwb Jan 2021 #13

Has been done in the past. Two FBI agents were pardoned by RR but grantcart Jan 2021 #18

There's secret and there's secret StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #30

The OP was referring to a spot on O'Donnell by an expert on pardons grantcart Jan 2021 #33

A few things StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #36

I was simply trying to recreate the context on "The Last Word" that the OP had obviously seen grantcart Jan 2021 #44

I understand your concern about limiting the pardon. But that idea isn't a good one StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #46

You misread my point about the 2/3 Senate vote grantcart Jan 2021 #47

I understood your point StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #49

Precisely. This is the big mark against allowing "secret" pardons... JHB Jan 2021 #3

Exactly, duforsure Jan 2021 #6

Person w pardon, even public pardon, can be charged in court. See Burdick SCotUS 1915 Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #12

Right, but he still could illegally sell pardons duforsure Jan 2021 #15

He could try to sell them to suckers. But I don't think secret pardons have been tested in court. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #19

You're right,that's why the laws need to be expanded to eliminate loopholes duforsure Jan 2021 #22

No StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #32

Secret doesn't mean that no one on earth knows about it StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #31

That's what /should/ happen (assuming "secret" in the first place) and what would... JHB Jan 2021 #35

I'm not saying he wouldn't try it - he's likely to try anything StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #38

The fact he won't be President after noon tomorrow obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #5

As long as there isn't a complete list given, duforsure Jan 2021 #9

Yeah, not gonna happen obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #10

Nope. Not even. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #39

Maybe the date/time of the pardon(s) have to be time-stamped and witnessed to prove no_hypocrisy Jan 2021 #7

But he has many fools like Navarro and even his dumbass kids that could claim JI7 Jan 2021 #11

They need to have real-time proof, not just their word StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #40

Is a president allowed to sell pardons? DeeDeeNY Jan 2021 #14

Yes he could using his agents, duforsure Jan 2021 #17

He can use agents, but that does not make it legal in any way. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #20

Right, duforsure Jan 2021 #25

Threads like this are beyond silly. brooklynite Jan 2021 #16

It's a loophole that could be exploited , duforsure Jan 2021 #21

Why? Arazi Jan 2021 #23

Because it assumes... brooklynite Jan 2021 #24

Trump has committed overt felonies and has been protected for decades Arazi Jan 2021 #45

I think there should be a numerical limitation on pardons whether secret or otherwise. dreamland Jan 2021 #26

There's no hole. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #28

I know legally he can't give pardons after leaving office, duforsure Jan 2021 #29

Pardons mean guilt. apnu Jan 2021 #34

The Supreme Court has blessed pre-conviction pardons and not all pardons mean guilt onenote Jan 2021 #42

Pardons are documented. onenote Jan 2021 #37

Thank you. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #41

Thank you all for this most interesting and informative thread. niyad Jan 2021 #43

Trump is touching the Pardon process. Ergo, the Pardon process will turn to crap. Hugin Jan 2021 #48