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Showing Original Post only (View all)Pew freak out. Nate Silver says, "Get a grip." [View all]
According to Twitter, Barack Obama went from a huge favorite at 1 PM to a huge underdog at 4 PM. Get a grip, people.
https://twitter.com/fivethirtyeight/status/255412550932516864
https://twitter.com/fivethirtyeight/status/255412550932516864
Pew has Romney ahead by 4 points among likely voters, tied among registered voters (updated)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021495453
Pew Poll states the obvious: If actual electorate is R+3, Obama loses
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Well, let's look in Pew's documentation (linked above), particularly in a section entitled, "Patters of Voter Support, September-October."
Did Romney's debate performance pluck some Democratic support away from Obama? Nope. The president's lead is virtually unchanged within his own party, from 93-5 in September to 94-5 now.
Did Romney strengthen himself among Republicans? Hardly, these numbers shifted from 92-5 to 91-7.
Did Romney achieve a major breakthrough among Independents? Only if you consider a 2-3 point shift within each candidate major (from Obama leading 45-44 to Romney ahead 46-42).
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In other words, we've learned something we should already have known. That if the electorate on Nov. 6 is 3 percentage points more
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/08/1141808/-Pew-Poll-states-the-obvious-If-actual-electorate-is-R-3-Obama-loses
Well, let's look in Pew's documentation (linked above), particularly in a section entitled, "Patters of Voter Support, September-October."
Did Romney's debate performance pluck some Democratic support away from Obama? Nope. The president's lead is virtually unchanged within his own party, from 93-5 in September to 94-5 now.
Did Romney strengthen himself among Republicans? Hardly, these numbers shifted from 92-5 to 91-7.
Did Romney achieve a major breakthrough among Independents? Only if you consider a 2-3 point shift within each candidate major (from Obama leading 45-44 to Romney ahead 46-42).
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In other words, we've learned something we should already have known. That if the electorate on Nov. 6 is 3 percentage points more
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/08/1141808/-Pew-Poll-states-the-obvious-If-actual-electorate-is-R-3-Obama-loses
The independent numbers are wrong there (it's actually Obama 48, Romney 47), but point taken.
PEW! ...somethin' stinks!
I know there's probably a lot of sensitivity about going into the "polls are skewed" thing, especially when approaching a respected pollster like Pew. So I won't unskew at all...I'll just present some demographic info from page 14 of the PDF of the today's poll showing Romney ahead by 4, and you can make your own judgments or calculations as you see fit in the comments:
Reps: 392
Dems: 361
50+ voters outnumber everyone else more than 2-1
White (non-Hispanic) voters surveyed: 869
Everyone else: 173 (!!!)
Note: This is from the LIKELY VOTER column.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/08/1141800/-PEW-somethin-stinks
Reps: 392
Dems: 361
50+ voters outnumber everyone else more than 2-1
White (non-Hispanic) voters surveyed: 869
Everyone else: 173 (!!!)
Note: This is from the LIKELY VOTER column.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/08/1141800/-PEW-somethin-stinks
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Some of us here need to learn how to see what is happening, not just what we want to see, because
patrice
Oct 2012
#24
I thought that foreign policy nonsense he spewed today fit the bill quite nicely. nm
nc4bo
Oct 2012
#10
You, ProSense and Nate Silver - the lifeboats of reason in a sea of hysteria
GoneOffShore
Oct 2012
#9
do you know who founded Pew? right wing maniac, that's who. FDR hater, gave money
Gabi Hayes
Oct 2012
#18
40% of their respondents are from the South, but only 33% of the US population is in the South.
reformist2
Oct 2012
#28
Another poll to tell me what disproportionally rich, white, Southern conservatives feel...
Barack_America
Oct 2012
#33