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raven42

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24. I usually like most of Sullivan's

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 10:09 PM

Oct 2012

commentary. I follow him on twitter and read the links to his daily takes. And I think he makes some good points even in this case. He has been very disappointed and discouraged since the debate, and he appears to be using the pew poll as a reason to vent a little. But I agree he's going too far here. If the President does reasonably well in the next two debates then I think his chances of reelection will still be pretty good. But there's no doubt (whether justified or not) that his performance in the first debate was damaging. But at least it took place a month out from the election (rather than just a week or two before) so he still has time to regroup.

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Andrew Sullivan is FREAKING out over Pew Poll [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 OP

Well . .. abumbyanyothername Oct 2012 #1

+1 hrmjustin Oct 2012 #2

He has been going crazy since the debate BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #3

You are right and shamefully that includes me. I need to take a Xanax... cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #15

The president has a lot of work to do CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #31

Pew SKEW: Age + Race + Region + Income + Religion + Political Orientation, links: patrice Oct 2012 #4

Can someone send this to Sully? Besides me? Meaning I will too Cha Oct 2012 #55

Done. nt patrice Oct 2012 #56

Thanks! Cha Oct 2012 #58

Someone send him the sampling. CakeGrrl Oct 2012 #5

And the handwringers will give the media what they want. jezebel Oct 2012 #6

+1google And what they want is REVERB which, as you say, fulfills their prophecies. nt patrice Oct 2012 #10

I think this is just another republican tactic to get their people motivated to vote. notadmblnd Oct 2012 #7

He Needs To Get A Grip DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #8

If Obama were into 'throwing' the election... noel711 Oct 2012 #9

Is he considered media? Because the media should understand polls. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #11

Even Ari Fleischer Said The Poll Was An Outlier And He Doesn't Expect That Party Breakdown DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #14

Fleischer is openly acknowledging what Sullivan doesn't even see? Indpndnt Oct 2012 #18

That's when you know you need a paper bag Lex Oct 2012 #20

lol Cha Oct 2012 #60

The media is being melodramatic about this poll... DonViejo Oct 2012 #30

And the wingnuts will never stop to wonder why they suddenly believe the polls are right. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #36

Well known bed wetter. nt Lex Oct 2012 #12

Even If I Was Concerned I Would Keep It To Myself DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #16

Relax mick063 Oct 2012 #13

The people who say 'relax its in the bag' and those who freak out both kind of make me sick... WI_DEM Oct 2012 #21

I agree with you on both extremes. But, I am holding my breath on Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #37

LOL! Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #17

Bingo! DonViejo Oct 2012 #32

This is absurd. One snapshot poll. Full blown insanity. brindis_desala Oct 2012 #19

I had a dream- Jeb Bush & Karl Rove hired a corporate businessman graham4anything Oct 2012 #22

bwahahahahahahaaa...funny spanone Oct 2012 #23

I usually like most of Sullivan's raven42 Oct 2012 #24

He's never been what you'd call a heavy thinker. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #25

I beg to disagree with you. Big Blue Marble Oct 2012 #38

I've never found him to be particularly bright. girl gone mad Oct 2012 #41

Bingo. I have never been fond of this man. Jennicut Oct 2012 #50

And an established tendency to rely on cherry-picked data. Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #52

I hate to disagree with you, my civil friend. :) Starry Messenger Oct 2012 #49

Certainly it does. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #51

well, at least no one here at DU is freaking out still_one Oct 2012 #26

... gateley Oct 2012 #29

Does this even remotely make sense to you? MrMickeysMom Oct 2012 #27

Advertising + Certain netizens amongst what calls itself "the Left" these days who are oh so eager patrice Oct 2012 #43

Yeah, but you and I will vote, patrice... MrMickeysMom Oct 2012 #45

Indeed! Just tired of the crap that goes on on this board. patrice Oct 2012 #47

I think I'd be scared too if I was gay and thought rmoney might win and I would lose the chance of mucifer Oct 2012 #28

If I was gay and scared about Romney, I would dummy up... grasswire Oct 2012 #42

I am gay. xfundy Oct 2012 #65

Don't believe the hype brush Oct 2012 #33

Has Sullivan actually looked at the details of the Pew "Poll". nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #34

So does it not occur to Sullivan, a truly bright commentator, Pew is a right-leaning pollster Samantha Oct 2012 #35

I don't think I agree with the Obama was stunned deal. On MSNBC they said that Obama had Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #40

I guess we just have a difference of opinion this Samantha Oct 2012 #61

What the f*ck are you talking about? 11cents Oct 2012 #46

But Pew's sample for this poll is a right-leaning mess. speedoo Oct 2012 #53

Here is the reality of the research on PEW Samantha Oct 2012 #57

Wrong about the sampling being off 11cents Oct 2012 #63

Hey no problem -- but I not speak from a bias Samantha Oct 2012 #64

Tomansky on Obama: Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #39

Such a dramatic reversal should lead a RATIONAL person to question anneboleyn Oct 2012 #44

Excellent post. nt Union Scribe Oct 2012 #54

Sully is being histrionic, but that doesn't mean he's wrong Azathoth Oct 2012 #48

I don't know what's going on, but I understand his panic ecstatic Oct 2012 #59

The Doom sayers are using it as a excuse to jump on Obama DisabledAmerican Oct 2012 #62

I Never Liked All His Hillary Bashing In 08 DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #66

One of the reasons I cannot stand Sully is his hatred of the Clintons. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #68

I actually though it was satire when i read his freakout yesterday outsideworld Oct 2012 #67