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6. 3rd party voters helped illuminate the way too, this time by voting for the Libertarian candidate
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:37 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:29 AM - Edit history (2)

Jo Jorgensen, instead of for Trump, almost certainly costing him Georgia, Arizona, and probably Wisconsin.

Georgia Arizona Wisconsin ## State
0.24%   0.31%   0.63% ## Biden's victory margin over Trump
1.24%   1.52%   1.17% ## Jorgensen's (Libertarian Party) percent of the vote
0.02%   0.05%   0.03% ## Hawkins's (Green Party) percent of the vote
0.02%   0.01%   0.53% ## Other's percent of the vote*

*Other than Biden, Trump, Jorgensen, and Hawkins

Anyhow, it looks like without Jo Jorgensen and other 3rd party types, Trump would have won these 3 states and gotten their 37 combined electoral votes. That would have resulted in a tie in the Electoral College, 269 to 269.

In Wisconsin, there were several candidates other than Biden and Trump: Jorgensen (1.2%), Brian Carroll (0.2%), Don Blankenship (0.2%), Hawkins (0.03%), and write-ins, with their vote percentages in ()'s

Brian Carroll is a weird one, I don't know whether he might have drawn more votes from the right than the left for sure. Sounds more rightie to me, but the fringe leftists can be pretty weird and unpredicatable (see Jack Pine Radicals) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_T._Carroll

Don Blankenship is the disgraced former CEO of Massey Energy, the coal company. I'm sure he drew more votes from the right than the left.


I'm assuming that many more Libertarian Party candidate Jorgensen voters would have voted for Trump than for Biden if she had not been on the ballot. And that ones who would have voted for neither of the Big Two if she wasn't on the ballot is fairly small. The margin in GA and AZ is overwhelming (her vote percentage compared to the Biden victory margin), the one questionable state is Wisconsin.

I got these from NBCNews, NYTImes, and Wikipedia. Some more details at https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017633984#post4

Note: this is NOT an encouragement of DUers to vote 3rd party, rather it's a big thank you to Republicans and other like-minded fuckheads for voting for them instead of for Trump. And for once in a long long time it looks like the 3rd party jinx has worked against the Republicans.

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