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berni_mccoy

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55. That population you cite includes Maryland, Delaware, VA and DC

Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:28 PM

Oct 2012

None of which are likely to go for Rmoney, and most have heavy African American populations. The poll does not sample likely voters indicative of that region of "the south" as you are defining it (and yes, I read the same wiki article you are citing). Take away those heavy Democratic regions of the South and you've got a far reduced population from the 37% you are referring to (more like 25%).

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Heh, Pew Research Poll... sampled 80% Moderate to Conservative voters, nearly 40% from the south, [View all] berni_mccoy Oct 2012 OP

Does that mean we should start "unskewing" polls? regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #1

No. But I Do Think, As We Discussed, When The Poll Was Taken, Is Of Great Consequence DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #3

This is raw data. Don't think anything was skewed. berni_mccoy Oct 2012 #5

No, it means we should reject polls with bad methodology Bjorn Against Oct 2012 #22

I say pew to pew... movonne Oct 2012 #63

they also apparently did the vast majority of their polling immediately after the debates magical thyme Oct 2012 #2

I Really Don't Think That Qualifies As Unskewing DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #4

Some real demographics eh? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2012 #6

K&R patrice Oct 2012 #7

What the Heck, Pew! Cha Oct 2012 #8

In other words, an outlier. Panasonic Oct 2012 #9

The size of the sample doesn't matter after say 1,000 as long as your WCGreen Oct 2012 #35

Actually, if the sample is a good one, meaning properly weighted, SheilaT Oct 2012 #49

Yep, I took statistics a long time ago and was not a wiz kid when I took it--- Grammy23 Oct 2012 #66

WHY would they do that? patrice Oct 2012 #10

The Corporate-controlled MSM? They have skin in this game. CakeGrrl Oct 2012 #14

because they're owned, run, and staffed by right-wing Repukes? Doctor_J Oct 2012 #16

Yeah, I guess I need to look at Pew closer; I thought it was research . . . patrice Oct 2012 #17

How embarrassing. All polls should have this basic data prominently featured. reformist2 Oct 2012 #11

this is good news though PD Turk Oct 2012 #12

yep berni_mccoy Oct 2012 #13

Thanks! Berni! I shared it and will continue to do so daily for a while, a week maybe. patrice Oct 2012 #15

BUT if all they want to do is STEAL an election, then these PHONY polls are support of his "WIN" Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #60

I'm pretty sure that's the plan. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #64

Diane Sawyer announced this poll tonight... ABC News should know better! secondwind Oct 2012 #18

No, "Pew" is a name that should be trustworthy demwing Oct 2012 #30

Really? Pew had a good reputation for honest, nonpartisan research. alp227 Oct 2012 #38

We're saying the same thing demwing Oct 2012 #54

Here are the numbers... SidDithers Oct 2012 #19

Do I read that right? maxrandb Oct 2012 #20

Yes, and they polled the fewest number of people in the Northeast and the west Bjorn Against Oct 2012 #26

Yes- James48 Oct 2012 #34

By those numbers maxrandb Oct 2012 #39

1 out of every 20 polls is complete bunk. tritsofme Oct 2012 #21

Scientifically speaking, yes. caseymoz Oct 2012 #25

When 10% of your sample says they are liberal and voting Romney..... pkdu Oct 2012 #23

So this is why they attacked the BLS...... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #24

Gallup switches to LV model tomorrow. SansACause Oct 2012 #27

Yet Chris Cillizza wrote a WaPo article of "takeaways" based on that poll alone. Sparkly Oct 2012 #28

Whether we agree or disagree with the data on each poll... cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #29

I posted this in another thread... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #31

The female voter switch seems absurd ejbr Oct 2012 #32

Same reason everything else changed. JoeyT Oct 2012 #51

Who the heck does a poll like that and say it's a "random" sample DavidL Oct 2012 #33

If you poll primarily in the South, you should not be surprised with conservative turnout. Sirveri Oct 2012 #56

Pew just proved themselves to be garbage. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #36

The sample also has ALOT of people over 50. Ilsa Oct 2012 #37

Holy crap....Rachel's using the OLD poll numbers!!!.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #40

since people are going totally ape over all the polling swings, this thread is one of the most Gabi Hayes Oct 2012 #41

Push poll. Throw it out. n/t ClusterFreak Oct 2012 #42

A concerted effort to mislead the public. City Lights Oct 2012 #43

need to know anything more about Pew? read this: Gabi Hayes Oct 2012 #44

There's a bigger question here ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #45

If I were Pew and need to be in the news limelight JackN415 Oct 2012 #46

Never New that The South Was As Populous As West and Northeast Combined! TomCADem Oct 2012 #47

About regional specifics svip Oct 2012 #50

But from an electoral college point of view, heavy pro-Romney Southern support... TomCADem Oct 2012 #52

Very true svip Oct 2012 #53

That population you cite includes Maryland, Delaware, VA and DC berni_mccoy Oct 2012 #55

that's why they call it pew! trailmonkee Oct 2012 #48

Of course Tsiyu Oct 2012 #57

2 to 1 Tyson73 Oct 2012 #58

Based on census numbers the south is not over-represented. Vattel Oct 2012 #59

K&R Wednesdays Oct 2012 #61

So, 5-2 Repuke over Dem (and moderates in between) and the poll is still that close? Roland99 Oct 2012 #62

This poll supports the required M$M narrative. Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #65

This is perfect. It will just make the repugs that much more pissed off when it drops them down hard lindysalsagal Oct 2012 #67