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Azathoth

(4,608 posts)
51. The judicial branch held because there was no serious attempt to use it
Sat Jan 23, 2021, 09:47 PM
Jan 2021

to stage the coup.

Rudy and Powell's dog and pony show was just that: a clown act for the cameras, not the courts. The running joke was that they were making their accusations everywhere except in the actual court filings. The lawsuits were amateurish and empty and gave judges -- even friendly judges -- nothing to hang their hats on.

The Texas AG lawsuit was really the only serious attempt to overrturn the election in the courts, and it also was little more than an empty PR gesture.

All of that would have been different if Trump had had competent, professional lawyers in the DOJ using the Department's full resources to pursue serious litigation to overrturn the results. They would have constructed enough specious arguments, and filed enough lawsuits, that eventually they would have crossed paths with a Trumper judge who felt comfortable going along with them. (Otherwise known as the Obamacare Strategy.) And then our democracy really would have come down to Boofer Kavanaugh and Amy Barrett Handmaid.

And while those two idiots were deciding whether they wanted to be remembered by history as the guys who appointed Hitler chancellor a second time, the DOJ would have already leaned on swing states and given the GOP legislatures there enough cover to throw out the results.

Get thee to the greatest page malaise Jan 2021 #1
Dear Senate: Convict this insurrectionist now. nt spooky3 Jan 2021 #2
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2021 #3
Worse and WORSE!!! 😠😠😠🤬🤬🤬🤬 electric_blue68 Jan 2021 #4
Always, from day 1 n/t hibbing Jan 2021 #18
This POS Jeffrey Clark needs to be investigated dalton99a Jan 2021 #5
Good evidence for the impeachment trial- hope they subpoena them all. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #11
This!!! Ford_Prefect Jan 2021 #36
Maybe not a bad idea to slow walk the Treason.... OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #6
Where do these criminal hacks come from? choie Jan 2021 #7
Not mentioned: firing Rosen wouldn't force Raffensberger to change the results Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #8
No logic whatsoever - dump truly never had a clue as to how the Constitution or... thenelm1 Jan 2021 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author thenelm1 Jan 2021 #32
What about Lindsey Graham's interference??? Bluethroughu Jan 2021 #9
The question is why? Biden would still have won even without Georgia. subterranean Jan 2021 #10
Hoping to start a domino effect. ret5hd Jan 2021 #13
Agree +1000 WA-03 Democrat Jan 2021 #20
Ego. Trump felt entitled to their loyalty. The refusal to find votes enraged him. Marcuse Jan 2021 #17
I'll maintain, to the day I die, we would have been in far worse trouble if the election came down.. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2021 #38
Georgia, then Pennsylvania, and Arizona? BelieveCassandra Jan 2021 #45
Could be. subterranean Jan 2021 #48
All In with Chris Hayes is covering this right now. Eugene Jan 2021 #12
The longer they push back the senate impeachment trial, the more evidence will come out turtleblossom Jan 2021 #14
Anyone who says "the system held" is kidding themselves Azathoth Jan 2021 #15
This. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2021 #16
Valid point. H2O Man Jan 2021 #23
Yes and No malaise Jan 2021 #37
I agree with you. There is no "system", no government, WheelWalker Jan 2021 #41
Yep. Exactly. Some scary shit. Pepsidog Jan 2021 #29
Valid points Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #42
The judicial branch held because there was no serious attempt to use it Azathoth Jan 2021 #51
The more the biggest GOP donors learn maybe just maybe they will put pressure on GOP. SayItLoud Jan 2021 #19
It simply boggles the mind ailsagirl Jan 2021 #21
If this impeachment fails, this behavior will become the norm for Republican Presidents. Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #22
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2021 #24
Its so stupid. GA's votes still wouldnt have given him the win oldsoftie Jan 2021 #25
Could you do me a favor ... ? badboy67 Jan 2021 #26
Kick canetoad Jan 2021 #27
So Moscow Mitch wants more time tonekat Jan 2021 #30
If the Senate doesn't convict Trump Joinfortmill Jan 2021 #31
Criminally pathological Larissa Jan 2021 #33
+ about a million. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #35
Still confusing to me. Even if they succeeded to reverse GA, Biden would still have more question everything Jan 2021 #34
Domino effect... kirby Jan 2021 #39
Trump's new AG would have pressured Arizona and Pennsylvania. sarcasmo Jan 2021 #52
Trump never has and never will understand the most fundamental notions of democratic government or Nitram Jan 2021 #40
I wonder how anyone can be "stunned" by any revelations arising from this? BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #43
Jeff Epstein probably wasn't surprised. yonder Jan 2021 #46
You are probably right. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #54
k&r BSdetect Jan 2021 #44
I worry about sleepers left behind in the executive branch bureaucracy bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #47
So do I. This isn't over, even if Trump wnylib Jan 2021 #50
KnR secondwind Jan 2021 #49
Thank God dump et al are not the sharpest knives in the drawer burrowowl Jan 2021 #53
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