I'm apparently a terrible, awful person.

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80. Discussing the debate from a different perspective

While watching the debate I saw a win for Obama - however I do think he could have kicked it up a notch and called out at least a couple of things - he didn’t (I was okay with that because there are more debates to come, more speeches, etc) - but watching Romney…. I was embarrassed that our country keeps letting these type of candidates this close to the Presidency and hell, even giving them elected positions.
Many have lowered their standards considerably.

After days of polls, media, blogs, forums and speaking to friends and family; some saw what I saw and picked up what I picked up on, some did not, some saw a completely different debate (in my opinion). The media, especially MSNBC surprised me in their response which seemed overly emotional for professionals and too quick on the draw. Maybe they will make adjustments to temper that next time and be a bit more rational and measured and less over the top. It wasn’t appealing. (they seemed to have been infected with the Romney virus - same kind of aggressive agitation displayed during the debate).

I have seen a fair amount of articles and commentaries about some shifts after the fact checkers got their hands on the transcript of the debate. There were some very serious problems with the content of Romney’s statements aka lies and the rapidity of them. Some concluded that while R won on style, O won on substance.
The real shame is that good substance seems dead or has been given a backseat by those who decide the winner of the debate. So it is the debate rules and those who decide what is a win or loss that bothers me along with allowing half-wits anywhere near elected office.

Here is what I added to my personal experience and opinion after the debate and reading lots of articles and listening to the news;
I did not take into account in the following polls - the people who start plugging in before the election. It is those very people that have not been “monitoring” politics and haven’t been until the past week or two. So they have no idea that Romney has every position and no position all at once, they have no idea that he is hiding shit, lying, refusing to give details until he is elected and that he and his “people” have been consistently making statements then retracting them. I mean the list goes on as everyone here already knows.
Those who have newly arrived to the political storm that has been festering out here for far too long are not going to think to view the President as a man with a country to run while trying to prepare for debates nor are they going to think of Romney as a man that has spent 7 years of his life debating and shitting all over the place leaving a trail of haters on the Republican and Democratic side of the fence. Not to mention the other parties that take severe issue with him.

They are going to go for the superficial…at first. It’s easy and they have to start someplace. Hell I do it as a starting point sometimes.

My concern is that the media are going to play loose and fast with the public instead of giving them very important information that helps voters make informed decisions. However the MSM will most likely play with fire once again. They really are a huge problem and why we have these ill-fitting candidates get so damned close to office or even elected. The MSM is being painfully irresponsible and it still is not changing. They have proven once again they are less than forthright.

So I personally feel that Obama won the debate and I am completely aware that is my opinion and that others have their opinion. I don’t have a need to get those who disagree with me to “submit” to my opinion. ("submit" is not an accusation to the OP - I’ve only noticed a trend in personal interactions, on news programs, in blogs, etc and it seems that everyone really wants to be right and get others to submit to their point of view instead of listening, discussing and re-evaluating).

I like reading different opinions. It makes me think about mine. Sure… I could argue it or debate it but what are the rules and who decides who wins between me and someone who wants to “go there”? I’m really just here because I appreciate DU… but I appreciate it more when there are discussion worthy posts and opinions without the name calling or call-outs and I like a good debate but the escalation and pile-ons are not very appealing. It‘s everywhere these days. Personally I rarely argue or debate, I suck at it but I do at times state an opinion; I may stand by it, leave it as is or even re-evaluate it and revise it. It’s a good thing I’m not running for office.

In the end, I think having different opinions is good and it makes us exercise our intellect but we hurt that by going for cheap-shots, broad-brushing and devaluing others in the process.