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PurgedVoter

(2,215 posts)
10. A Simple Explaination of Shorting Stock.
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 02:37 AM
Jan 2021

I borrow a bag of sugar from you because I know someone who will pay the current value for it and I suspect the price of sugar will go down.

If sugar goes down in price then when I buy a bag to give back to you next week, I made a profit. I only do this when I think I have a sure bet. If next week the price of sugar goes down I can profit by the reduction of price. If however the price of sugar goes up, I am on the hook and have to pay the new value.

If the sugar I borrowed from you cost five dollars, then the most I can possibly make is five dollars if sugar becomes free. If however that amount of sugar now costs a million dollars I loose five dollars less than a million dollars.

So the potential loss vs potential gain of shorting stock makes it dangerous. It also makes me, as the snake that is using your sugar to make money, interested in having sugar go down in value. This means that by allowing shorting to be used as an investment tool, I allow a bias that profits on the failure of business. Since the creation of stock exchanges was based on the theory that it would help with job creation and the success of businesses, this is dirty pool.

This is the problem with stock exchange in general. There are ample opportunities to make a profit off of the misfortune of others. There are even more dangerous things that these high dollar markets can do.

Now that water can be speculated on in the commodities market, a person can make a fortune by manipulating the availability of water. This puts the common man at risk. It puts crops at risk, health at risk. Water being put on the commodities market means that someone rich might just want to persuade officials to not make good decisions.
When it comes to trading stocks, you can take a short position on the direction of the stock. Yavin4 Jan 2021 #1
Thanks for your insight. Nt cate94 Jan 2021 #2
That is a wonderful, succinct, and totally clear explanation. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #3
Thank you. I finally understand it now. Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #4
it depends. uncle ray Jan 2021 #17
Wow. What an interesting development. Those young people Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #30
great summary--I'd just add they "borrowed" so many shares they cornered the market on themselves fishwax Jan 2021 #6
You don't borrow " the value of the shares" when selling short A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #8
The point of my post was to explain short selling in terms that a lay person can understand Yavin4 Jan 2021 #19
Thanks, Yavin. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #20
..... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #38
+100000000000000000000000000000000 x infinity AmyStrange Jan 2021 #23
Thanks !!! A couple more questions that came to me while reading your explanation. Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #9
Whether you borrow the actual cash value of the stock or rent the stock itself, Yavin4 Jan 2021 #18
Maybe think of it this way for simplicity ADK Jan 2021 #33
Almost there jmowreader Jan 2021 #15
Thank you! I've been looking for an explanation of "this week" all week, but everywhere.. LAS14 Jan 2021 #26
Basically the ending to TlalocW Jan 2021 #5
+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 2 AmyStrange Jan 2021 #24
Thanks for the easy to understand overview PersianStar Jan 2021 #7
A Simple Explaination of Shorting Stock. PurgedVoter Jan 2021 #10
Is the "bag of sugar" shares of stock, or cash against shares already owned by the borrower? nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #11
Here's my version as it's been explained to me progree Jan 2021 #12
No correction from me, old pal. You are spot on correct A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #13
The concept of Short Selling is not limited to just stocks. Yavin4 Jan 2021 #21
Are you serious?!? And no shit. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #36
The exact title of the OP: Yavin4 Jan 2021 #39
BTW, the expiration of a short position... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #14
Thanks much. I don't know where I got "a few weeks" from, probably that came from some kind progree Jan 2021 #37
it can be either. mopinko Jan 2021 #16
bag of sugar is stock nt PurgedVoter Jan 2021 #40
Thanks ! Yeah, I got that part. I just wasn't clear if the loan was cash or stock. Got it now. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #42
A bunch of Dumpy Incels and gamer dweebs getting their jollies. BlueNProud Jan 2021 #22
A large group of regular people edhopper Jan 2021 #25
Trust me Dump will align himself with these white bros. BlueNProud Jan 2021 #35
Lets hope not. edhopper Jan 2021 #41
Gee, that's how I'd characterize the insurrection gang. Arthur_Frain Jan 2021 #27
There's plenty of Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #29
I'm quite aware that gamer dweebs cross the political spectrum. Arthur_Frain Jan 2021 #31
LOL ! Lots of crossover there ! n t Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #32
Good thread. dalton99a Jan 2021 #28
In order to short a stock you must have a margin account. marie999 Jan 2021 #34
Here you go! Margot Robbie explains finance terms Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #43
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