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12. Here's my version as it's been explained to me
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 03:53 AM
Jan 2021

When I sell 1000 shares of XYZ corporation short, I am borrowing 1000 shares from a broker and then I sell those shares on the open market. If the current price is $30/share, I get 30*1000 = $30,000 from the sale that I put in my pocket. Cool.

But I have to eventually give the shares back to the broker. I don't know what the time frame of that is, I think a few weeks.

Remember: He who sells what isn't his'n, must pay up or go to prison.

(the female and gender neutral versions of that don't rhyme as well).

Anyway, the time comes when I have to give 1000 shares back to the broker. Let's say at that time, I can buy 1000 shares for $10/share on the open market and do so, at a cost to me of 10*1000 = $10,000.

And then I give the 1000 shares that I just bought to the broker.

Cashwise, I pocketed $30,000 but had to spend $10,000 to buy back the shares, leaving me with a $20,000 profit. Life is good.

But what if instead, when it came time to buy the shares, the price was $40/share rather than $10/share? Well I'd have to pay $40,000 for the 1000 shares. And then I give those 1000 shares to the broker.

Cashwise, I pocketed $30,000 but had to spend $40,000 to buy back the shares, leaving me with a $10,000 loss. Life sucks and then you die.

Edited to add: If A HERETIC I AM corrects this, he is almost certainly right since he actually worked as a broker.



When it comes to trading stocks, you can take a short position on the direction of the stock. Yavin4 Jan 2021 #1
Thanks for your insight. Nt cate94 Jan 2021 #2
That is a wonderful, succinct, and totally clear explanation. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #3
Thank you. I finally understand it now. Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #4
it depends. uncle ray Jan 2021 #17
Wow. What an interesting development. Those young people Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #30
great summary--I'd just add they "borrowed" so many shares they cornered the market on themselves fishwax Jan 2021 #6
You don't borrow " the value of the shares" when selling short A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #8
The point of my post was to explain short selling in terms that a lay person can understand Yavin4 Jan 2021 #19
Thanks, Yavin. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #20
..... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #38
+100000000000000000000000000000000 x infinity AmyStrange Jan 2021 #23
Thanks !!! A couple more questions that came to me while reading your explanation. Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #9
Whether you borrow the actual cash value of the stock or rent the stock itself, Yavin4 Jan 2021 #18
Maybe think of it this way for simplicity ADK Jan 2021 #33
Almost there jmowreader Jan 2021 #15
Thank you! I've been looking for an explanation of "this week" all week, but everywhere.. LAS14 Jan 2021 #26
Basically the ending to TlalocW Jan 2021 #5
+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 2 AmyStrange Jan 2021 #24
Thanks for the easy to understand overview PersianStar Jan 2021 #7
A Simple Explaination of Shorting Stock. PurgedVoter Jan 2021 #10
Is the "bag of sugar" shares of stock, or cash against shares already owned by the borrower? nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #11
Here's my version as it's been explained to me progree Jan 2021 #12
No correction from me, old pal. You are spot on correct A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #13
The concept of Short Selling is not limited to just stocks. Yavin4 Jan 2021 #21
Are you serious?!? And no shit. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #36
The exact title of the OP: Yavin4 Jan 2021 #39
BTW, the expiration of a short position... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #14
Thanks much. I don't know where I got "a few weeks" from, probably that came from some kind progree Jan 2021 #37
it can be either. mopinko Jan 2021 #16
bag of sugar is stock nt PurgedVoter Jan 2021 #40
Thanks ! Yeah, I got that part. I just wasn't clear if the loan was cash or stock. Got it now. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #42
A bunch of Dumpy Incels and gamer dweebs getting their jollies. BlueNProud Jan 2021 #22
A large group of regular people edhopper Jan 2021 #25
Trust me Dump will align himself with these white bros. BlueNProud Jan 2021 #35
Lets hope not. edhopper Jan 2021 #41
Gee, that's how I'd characterize the insurrection gang. Arthur_Frain Jan 2021 #27
There's plenty of Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #29
I'm quite aware that gamer dweebs cross the political spectrum. Arthur_Frain Jan 2021 #31
LOL ! Lots of crossover there ! n t Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #32
Good thread. dalton99a Jan 2021 #28
In order to short a stock you must have a margin account. marie999 Jan 2021 #34
Here you go! Margot Robbie explains finance terms Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #43
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