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ADK

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33. Maybe think of it this way for simplicity
Sat Jan 30, 2021, 12:33 PM
Jan 2021

You sell a security you do not currently own at a high price, betting that you will be able to repurchase the security later at a lower price to return to its owner. This is a strategy largely undertaken by institutional investors. There is a pretty good discussion at https://thismatter.com/money/stocks/selling-short.htm

The issue here is that a large number of small retail investors using Robinhood to affect their trades allegedly used social media — a Reddit discussion group in particular— to collude and coordinate their stock purchases to create a seemingly large demand and artificially drive up the price of GameStop and AMC stock, despite the fact that the stocks fundamentally should be declining in value. Some retail investors sold the stock to make astronomical profits. The large institutional investors that had been selling short started to take a bath, and Robinhood ceased allowing retail investors from trading in the stock, while institutional investors were allowed to continue. In other words, the market was manipulated by both the retail investors and then by Robinhood, and there are a number of issues with potential violation of federal securities laws on both sides that are the subject of ongoing investigations. The underlying question seems to be what effect social media can have on what is supposed to be an efficient market. It’s similar to the discussion regarding Facebook and the spread of false information in many respects.

Here is an WSJ article that summarizes the GameStop/AMC issues. https://www.wsj.com/articles/gamestop-stock-reddit-and-robinhood-what-you-need-to-know-11611960243

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When it comes to trading stocks, you can take a short position on the direction of the stock. Yavin4 Jan 2021 #1
Thanks for your insight. Nt cate94 Jan 2021 #2
That is a wonderful, succinct, and totally clear explanation. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #3
Thank you. I finally understand it now. Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #4
it depends. uncle ray Jan 2021 #17
Wow. What an interesting development. Those young people Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #30
great summary--I'd just add they "borrowed" so many shares they cornered the market on themselves fishwax Jan 2021 #6
You don't borrow " the value of the shares" when selling short A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #8
The point of my post was to explain short selling in terms that a lay person can understand Yavin4 Jan 2021 #19
Thanks, Yavin. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #20
..... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #38
+100000000000000000000000000000000 x infinity AmyStrange Jan 2021 #23
Thanks !!! A couple more questions that came to me while reading your explanation. Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #9
Whether you borrow the actual cash value of the stock or rent the stock itself, Yavin4 Jan 2021 #18
Maybe think of it this way for simplicity ADK Jan 2021 #33
Almost there jmowreader Jan 2021 #15
Thank you! I've been looking for an explanation of "this week" all week, but everywhere.. LAS14 Jan 2021 #26
Basically the ending to TlalocW Jan 2021 #5
+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 2 AmyStrange Jan 2021 #24
Thanks for the easy to understand overview PersianStar Jan 2021 #7
A Simple Explaination of Shorting Stock. PurgedVoter Jan 2021 #10
Is the "bag of sugar" shares of stock, or cash against shares already owned by the borrower? nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #11
Here's my version as it's been explained to me progree Jan 2021 #12
No correction from me, old pal. You are spot on correct A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #13
The concept of Short Selling is not limited to just stocks. Yavin4 Jan 2021 #21
Are you serious?!? And no shit. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #36
The exact title of the OP: Yavin4 Jan 2021 #39
BTW, the expiration of a short position... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2021 #14
Thanks much. I don't know where I got "a few weeks" from, probably that came from some kind progree Jan 2021 #37
it can be either. mopinko Jan 2021 #16
bag of sugar is stock nt PurgedVoter Jan 2021 #40
Thanks ! Yeah, I got that part. I just wasn't clear if the loan was cash or stock. Got it now. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #42
A bunch of Dumpy Incels and gamer dweebs getting their jollies. BlueNProud Jan 2021 #22
A large group of regular people edhopper Jan 2021 #25
Trust me Dump will align himself with these white bros. BlueNProud Jan 2021 #35
Lets hope not. edhopper Jan 2021 #41
Gee, that's how I'd characterize the insurrection gang. Arthur_Frain Jan 2021 #27
There's plenty of Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #29
I'm quite aware that gamer dweebs cross the political spectrum. Arthur_Frain Jan 2021 #31
LOL ! Lots of crossover there ! n t Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #32
Good thread. dalton99a Jan 2021 #28
In order to short a stock you must have a margin account. marie999 Jan 2021 #34
Here you go! Margot Robbie explains finance terms Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #43
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