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KharmaTrain

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38. I Had A Boss Doing This In The 80s...

Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:16 PM

Oct 2012

...he ran a 24/7 operation with a full time staff of 3 people...the rest (about 15) were part timers. It was strictly financial...these people were limited to no more than 30 hours a week. They got no benefits and could be fired at will without any ability to claim unemployment benefits. The full time weren't much better as he expected 60 plus hours a week or there was always an anxious part timer who'd take the job.

The other scam is making employees "contractors" and then not only didn't they get benefits, they also had to pay their own SSI. This isn't anything new, just a lot more common...

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Olive Garden & Red Lobster making workers part-time to avoid providing health insurance [View all] proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 OP

du rec. nt xchrom Oct 2012 #1

3 part time jobs? Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #2

But you really can't do that either nobodyspecial Oct 2012 #11

Retail and supermarkets HockeyMom Oct 2012 #3

Exactly! Glitterati Oct 2012 #4

I worked retail in the 70s and 80s proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #12

Unions HockeyMom Oct 2012 #13

Correct. moondust Oct 2012 #24

That's very true siouxsiecreamcheese Oct 2012 #32

+1000 zabet Oct 2012 #50

Again, going on a LONG time HockeyMom Oct 2012 #57

i agree zabet Oct 2012 #62

Oh, not talking about you HockeyMom Oct 2012 #63

It's time to untie health insurance from employment. Ilsa Oct 2012 #51

That's a great idea! Turbineguy Oct 2012 #5

And as a result, I won't be eating at either place, ever. closeupready Oct 2012 #6

I'll second that sentiment. Boycotts work! Coyotl Oct 2012 #47

Too bad I already don't eat at either chain. nt Barack_America Oct 2012 #7

Apple and Microsoft lalalu Oct 2012 #8

being upset wouldn't have made any difference... sharkman25 Oct 2012 #9

Putting aside the benefits issue HockeyMom Oct 2012 #14

Actually a lot of us did, we just couldn't break through the corporate love-fest that both parties Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #18

Why would employers offer ins with the new individual mandate? leftstreet Oct 2012 #10

+1 n/t area51 Oct 2012 #15

Employers with over 50 FTEs are required to by the ACA. banned from Kos Oct 2012 #36

'FTE's - that means 'full' time. Not what article is about n/t leftstreet Oct 2012 #37

Mandatory private insurance is a Faustian deal. And as always, the Devil's in the details! nt Romulox Oct 2012 #16

Some people would tell these workers that they can afford to pay for their own insurance. Zalatix Oct 2012 #30

Where does the $80 bucks a month number come from? guardian Oct 2012 #41

Just $20K a year = $80 a month financial responsibility Zalatix Oct 2012 #43

Easy fix. EC Oct 2012 #17

That's kind of a big fucking deal. progressoid Oct 2012 #19

serious question Enrique Oct 2012 #20

They go to the emergency room. proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #22

And afterwards they live in a permanent state of Bankruptcy. bluedigger Oct 2012 #26

Nothing new. Been trying to find a full time job for 2 years - lynne Oct 2012 #21

Spawn of Satan, they are slackmaster Oct 2012 #23

Not a new thing for most businesses these days SoCalDem Oct 2012 #25

Full time for some people means 50 or more hours a week LiberalEsto Oct 2012 #35

I Had A Boss Doing This In The 80s... KharmaTrain Oct 2012 #38

this is the part from the link that really sux littlewolf Oct 2012 #27

Who didn't see THIS coming? Zalatix Oct 2012 #28

I'm surprised this hasn't been tried sooner. Cleita Oct 2012 #29

Are these the "Job Creators" I keep hearing about? Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #31

Well, they don't create good food, that's for sure customerserviceguy Oct 2012 #52

Wont they have to spend more time other resources on Training ? JI7 Oct 2012 #33

Is that how they treat "family" ?! ("when you're here you're family") KurtNYC Oct 2012 #34

medicare for all dembotoz Oct 2012 #39

yes medicare for all mcdornan1 Oct 2012 #40

Aren't these some of the people Mitt Romney is describing when he describes applegrove Oct 2012 #42

Is their goal to have unhealthy employees? Generic Brad Oct 2012 #44

This is news? intheflow Oct 2012 #45

They will always find kids and the desperately unemployed to fill positions until recovery DainBramaged Oct 2012 #46

+1 Initech Oct 2012 #49

sounds good to me sweetapogee Oct 2012 #53

Ain't that the truth? proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #55

They should just reinstitute slavery and get it over with. Initech Oct 2012 #48

no kidding. Iris Oct 2012 #61

I would bet the employees RegieRocker Oct 2012 #54

This is why we need single-payer. Everyone treated the same. Vinca Oct 2012 #56

There should be a special tax on companies that do not retain full time workers. Festivito Oct 2012 #58

that's an old, old trick made new again it seems. dionysus Oct 2012 #59

This has been rule of thumb for lots of companies well before Obamacare...profits trump all, don't mother earth Oct 2012 #60