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9. Luckily we have the testimony of the rioters
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:55 PM
Feb 2021

In real time, I recall reporters talking to the rioters as they went up Pennsylvania Avenue toward the Capitol Building that a lot of them thought Trump was walking up the street with them, maybe even leading the charge. It's understandable why some of them would think that, since Trump himself said he'd march with them on the Capital just minutes before. There's an indisputable bright line from Trump's speech stirring up the crowd and the crowd's actions directly afterwards.

And that doesn't even touch on some of the other inflammatory rhetoric that day, like Giuliani thundering "Why don't we have trial by combat?!" Judging by the immediate reaction of the crowd, they weren't parsing the statements for nuance or metaphorical meanings. They heard clear orders from their heroes, and they acted on those orders.

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and remember. Didn't it take about 2 hours before he called out the Nat. Guard?? riversedge Feb 2021 #1
He never did - Pence called out the National Guard csziggy Feb 2021 #21
He certainly intended a major obstruction of the legislative branch doing its work Walleye Feb 2021 #2
What Amazes Me Is How Far His Big Lie Got Him..... global1 Feb 2021 #3
scary how gullible the right-wing masses are. they'll believe anything. unblock Feb 2021 #16
Agreed. choie Feb 2021 #4
Hadn't Noticed but Incitement to Insurrection Contains No Mens Rea or State of Mind Element Stallion Feb 2021 #5
Interesting that it's not even needed for the criminal charge. unblock Feb 2021 #8
It may be that the case law breaks it down further into elements coti Feb 2021 #24
And Trump was warned by GA election official that he was inciting violence Raven123 Feb 2021 #6
Good Point ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #7
Luckily we have the testimony of the rioters gratuitous Feb 2021 #9
I also don't understand why there isn't more focus on what Giuliani said... AntiFascist Feb 2021 #10
There were more bdamomma Feb 2021 #15
Why would his lawyers make that argument? kentuck Feb 2021 #11
not sure about his lawyers, but there certainly others argue that he's not responsible for the mob unblock Feb 2021 #13
So if you yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre and you don't intend to get people trampled to death ... robertpaulsen Feb 2021 #12
well, someone like that certainly shouldn't be president lol! unblock Feb 2021 #14
i think casting this as a "trial" obscures the "performance review" angle 0rganism Feb 2021 #17
yes. the constitution is a marvelous document, but i think this is one of its subtle mistakes unblock Feb 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2021 #19
We are responsible for the foreseeable consequences of our acts struggle4progress Feb 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2021 #22
What he intended- and quite obviously- was to overturn the will of the voters coti Feb 2021 #23
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