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In reply to the discussion: Yikes.....I did not know this about Tolkien [View all]Mike 03
(18,690 posts)14. FWIW, here's an interesting article from "The Forward", a Jewish-American organization
The Secret Jewish History Of Lord Of The Rings
Tolkien, a devout Catholic who engaged in vigorous theological discussion with C.S. Lewis, a Christian apologist with a Jewish wife, did more than simply rebuff a publisher who overreached. He rejected an invitation to visit Germany in 1938 and was vocally opposed to the Nazi regime, writing in a 1941 letter to his son Michael, I have in this war a burning private grudge
against that ruddy little ignoramus Adolf Hitler. As a professor of Anglo Saxon studies, he loathed the Führer for ruining, perverting, misapplying, and making forever accursed, that noble northern spirit, a supreme contribution to Europe, which I have ever loved, and tried to present in its true light.
The authors books, intended as a kind of English national myth, have a surprising Jewish element in one of their more central races. In a rare instance of admitting allegory, Tolkien told the BBC in 1971 that his Dwarves serve as a stand-in for the chosen people.
The Dwarves of course are quite obviously, wouldnt you say that in many ways they remind you of the Jews? Tolkien said in a radio interview. Their words are Semitic, obviously, constructed to be Semitic.
(While having a race of stocky, hirsute men devoted to us may not put us in the most flattering light, we should note that Tolkien also decried Nazi racial policies as wholly pernicious and unscientific.)
Though Tolkien said he didnt intend to make the Dwarves Jewish initially, the evidence proves otherwise. As a linguist, the author took great care in creating the languages of Middle Earth and, as Tolkien scholar John Rateliff wrote in his book The History of the Hobbit, he deliberately modeled Khuzdûl, the Dwarvish dialect, after Hebrew phonology.
The authors books, intended as a kind of English national myth, have a surprising Jewish element in one of their more central races. In a rare instance of admitting allegory, Tolkien told the BBC in 1971 that his Dwarves serve as a stand-in for the chosen people.
The Dwarves of course are quite obviously, wouldnt you say that in many ways they remind you of the Jews? Tolkien said in a radio interview. Their words are Semitic, obviously, constructed to be Semitic.
(While having a race of stocky, hirsute men devoted to us may not put us in the most flattering light, we should note that Tolkien also decried Nazi racial policies as wholly pernicious and unscientific.)
Though Tolkien said he didnt intend to make the Dwarves Jewish initially, the evidence proves otherwise. As a linguist, the author took great care in creating the languages of Middle Earth and, as Tolkien scholar John Rateliff wrote in his book The History of the Hobbit, he deliberately modeled Khuzdûl, the Dwarvish dialect, after Hebrew phonology.
https://forward.com/culture/428414/the-secret-jewish-history-of-lord-of-the-rings/
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Watched the new version of "Witches" recently and it got me thinking how anti-semitic the original
sweetloukillbot
Feb 2021
#11
I mean Ezra Pound was on a bit of a different level--he was on the wrong side in WWII and wound up
fishwax
Feb 2021
#32
The way Tolkien is quoted above, it seems clear he viewed his Dwarves to be inaccurate portrayal
Nitram
Feb 2021
#40
Do you have any proof HIS view of Jews was normal then? Any data? thx in advance
uponit7771
Feb 2021
#16
I was there. Read books from the era. Watch movies from the era. Educate yourself. nt
Binkie The Clown
Feb 2021
#19
I have, I know people I didn't live in that era in the US but the people I know who did ...
uponit7771
Feb 2021
#34
FWIW, here's an interesting article from "The Forward", a Jewish-American organization
Mike 03
Feb 2021
#14
My great aunt worked as Tolkein's writing assistant when she studied at Oxford.
GumboYaYa
Feb 2021
#15
When Tolkien was publishing the Lord of the Rings, he was contacted by the Third Reich
haele
Feb 2021
#25
No, Mark Twain would not by any measure be considered racist today. His novels included dialog
Nitram
Feb 2021
#37
Nope, Twain was far ahead of his time. I would bet he would support black lives matter today
JI7
Feb 2021
#46