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In reply to the discussion: Yikes.....I did not know this about Tolkien [View all]haele
(15,374 posts)25. When Tolkien was publishing the Lord of the Rings, he was contacted by the Third Reich
As his name was Germanic, the head of the publishing house there asked him if he had any Jewish ancestory. His answer was:
If I am to understand
that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people.
While the quote from The Hobbit is certainly damning to an extent, pretty much everything in that article that is outside of his direct quotes to the BBC is a supposition based on the writer's personal view of early 20th century British social prejudices.
As a philologist, Tolkien had a greater respect for languages and the development of languages than he did of the cultures that developed those languages. He actually preferred the Semitic languages to the Romance languages. From most actual accounts and his own writings, he had few opinions of differences the "races of men" other than as a cultural construct, basically because he was raised in South Africa as a child and had issues with the way different races were treated - and then, after his father died, he was brought back to England where his mother promptly converted to Catholicism, which meant the family was basically disinherited form both sides.
Not apologizing, but he was far less anti-Semitic or racist than most of his colleagues.
BTW, when reading both The Hobbit and TLOR, the way he described hobbits, they were a mix of Near-Eastern and North African in appearance.
Haele
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Watched the new version of "Witches" recently and it got me thinking how anti-semitic the original
sweetloukillbot
Feb 2021
#11
I mean Ezra Pound was on a bit of a different level--he was on the wrong side in WWII and wound up
fishwax
Feb 2021
#32
The way Tolkien is quoted above, it seems clear he viewed his Dwarves to be inaccurate portrayal
Nitram
Feb 2021
#40
Do you have any proof HIS view of Jews was normal then? Any data? thx in advance
uponit7771
Feb 2021
#16
I was there. Read books from the era. Watch movies from the era. Educate yourself. nt
Binkie The Clown
Feb 2021
#19
I have, I know people I didn't live in that era in the US but the people I know who did ...
uponit7771
Feb 2021
#34
FWIW, here's an interesting article from "The Forward", a Jewish-American organization
Mike 03
Feb 2021
#14
My great aunt worked as Tolkein's writing assistant when she studied at Oxford.
GumboYaYa
Feb 2021
#15
When Tolkien was publishing the Lord of the Rings, he was contacted by the Third Reich
haele
Feb 2021
#25
No, Mark Twain would not by any measure be considered racist today. His novels included dialog
Nitram
Feb 2021
#37
Nope, Twain was far ahead of his time. I would bet he would support black lives matter today
JI7
Feb 2021
#46