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Dem4Life1102

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149. I don't have to prove a negative

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 10:18 AM

Feb 2021

That is just twisted logic. The burden of proof is with the one making the accusation, not the other way around.

And yes the question asked to the JD spokesman is not included in the article, just their quote:

“It’s dependent on what Schumer does,”
“Schumer will have to explain every one of his decisions to one of the most progressive primary electorates in the country, and if voters think he’s capitulating to Mitch McConnell and not organizing his caucus to deliver for working families, then he’s going to be in some trouble.”

So I'll ask once again to please produce any quotes from AOC that says she is thinking about running against Schumer in a primary.

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NY-SEN: Schumer quietly nails down the left amid AOC primary chatter [View all] RandySF Feb 2021 OP

Duplicate (and the author is a Politico perpetual shitstirrer in regards to Dems) Celerity Feb 2021 #1

Since when are duplicates a problem? R B Garr Feb 2021 #2

its the exact same article, on the same speculative subject, and the other thread is quite large nt Celerity Feb 2021 #3

Don't you kick a lot of days old AOC threads for R B Garr Feb 2021 #5

no, you must have me confused with someone else nt Celerity Feb 2021 #6

There were minimal responses to the threads you kicked, R B Garr Feb 2021 #7

What threads? Give me examples. Me simply replying to an OP about AOC is hardly some nefarious thing Celerity Feb 2021 #9

I gave this thread as an example. R B Garr Feb 2021 #12

'so why are some with minimal responses kicked for exposure after a couple days' Celerity Feb 2021 #18

You seemed concerned with this duplicate thread R B Garr Feb 2021 #20

lol, talk about projection, all I posted was that it was a duplicate of another, much replied to OP Celerity Feb 2021 #23

Actually, you are the one who took it and ran with it. R B Garr Feb 2021 #27

I did not 'run with it' at all. All my initial responses were very short 'subject line only' replies Celerity Feb 2021 #109

This is quite a disproportionate reaction. R B Garr Feb 2021 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author R B Garr Feb 2021 #10

This wasn't good the first time. Why should we care about this considering the source? Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #17

The source quoted here is from Justice Democrats, her R B Garr Feb 2021 #4

No one should be primaried...we have a razor thing majority...only Republican seats should be Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #16

Exactly! I loathe them, as well. They were founded by an R B Garr Feb 2021 #29

And I have heard he takes money from Republicans. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #54

Media manufactured story Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #8

The source quoted was from Justice Democrats, and their R B Garr Feb 2021 #11

Doesn't change the fact that she has never Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #13

She never said she wasn't either...she could have so who knows. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #15

That is like saying Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #19

Justice Democrats is the source. Has she R B Garr Feb 2021 #22

Actually they are not Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #24

They mention others only as an aside to her. R B Garr Feb 2021 #28

No Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #31

There is nothing incorrect in the article about AOC R B Garr Feb 2021 #32

And they never mention her name Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #33

Sources close to her are Justice Democrats. And she didn't R B Garr Feb 2021 #35

You're whole argument Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #37

Her own words agree with the article. She has spoken R B Garr Feb 2021 #39

Please post the quote Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #42

This is more falseness. The article doesn't say she is starting a primary campaign. R B Garr Feb 2021 #44

What quotes? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #45

Her quotes match what Justice Democrats is talking about. R B Garr Feb 2021 #49

Again not one of these articles have a Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #52

Both sources say she has thought about it, as she hasn't R B Garr Feb 2021 #55

Then produce the quotes Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #59

I've already produced pages of them. The article R B Garr Feb 2021 #60

No you have not Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #62

Now your switching your criteria. The article doesn't R B Garr Feb 2021 #64

What was her answer? /nt tonedevil Feb 2021 #66

Yes she answered Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #67

Didn't she give some measurable milestones she R B Garr Feb 2021 #69

No she didn't Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #71

Sure she's discussed measurable milestones. If politicians don't parrot Justice Democrats R B Garr Feb 2021 #76

Again your argument is based on the what she didn't say Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #78

You cling to this false talking point, but that's not even what the article states. R B Garr Feb 2021 #80

Not a false talking point Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #82

Where are the quotes saying she is not going to primary Schumer? R B Garr Feb 2021 #83

I don't have to prove a negative Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #85

So there is some possibility... tonedevil Feb 2021 #86

Odd the shifting standards you embrace. LanternWaste Feb 2021 #93

No idea what you are talking about Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #94

If it is all over media...most folks would say...no not true if it wasn't true...she probably enjoys Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #56

As one politician once said Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #58

The source is Justice Democrats, not the media. R B Garr Feb 2021 #21

No it's not Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #25

Waleed Shahid is quoted from Justice Democrats . R B Garr Feb 2021 #26

And he never says her name Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #30

This is a false analysis of the article. You make it R B Garr Feb 2021 #34

No what is false is to claim that Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #36

"referring to a challenge by her or another progressive candidate" R B Garr Feb 2021 #41

No I highlighted the exact quote by Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #43

Actually, the spin is yours. R B Garr Feb 2021 #46

The article thus the reporter Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #47

The "her" referred to is AOC. The article title is about AOC. It's not about another mystery "her" R B Garr Feb 2021 #48

And the title is written by the reporter Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #51

That's not what the article even states. It's a false R B Garr Feb 2021 #53

She answered and didn't say she was considering it Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #57

I've produced pages on the subject and there are many R B Garr Feb 2021 #61

She was asked directly... tonedevil Feb 2021 #63

And I could produce pages that say Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #65

LOL. Justice Democrats is the source. They are known R B Garr Feb 2021 #68

And they never said they said they were going to primary Schumer either Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #70

There are pages of the media dialogues with AOC. R B Garr Feb 2021 #72

If there are Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #73

This article isn't about her announcing her candidacy. R B Garr Feb 2021 #74

No I'm taking the angle that JD never said Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #75

They weren't asked about "definitely". That is your spin. Their milestones for going after R B Garr Feb 2021 #77

And where in that quote Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #79

Again, who is the other mystery "she" the article is referring to? R B Garr Feb 2021 #81

Which is what the reporter wrote Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #84

So there was no real "she" person that the article was referencing, even though AOC quotes R B Garr Feb 2021 #87

An article written by a reporter Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #88

"she" is the subject. You are stating that the "she" is not AOC. R B Garr Feb 2021 #89

And the subject of the article is Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #90

So who is the "she" the reporter is referring to? R B Garr Feb 2021 #91

Why does that matter? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #92

Ah, now we're discounting the gender and really going full denial. R B Garr Feb 2021 #95

No we are discounting what the reporter wrote Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #96

AOC has been quoted on this same matter and you've even quoted her here. R B Garr Feb 2021 #97

Yes she has been quoted Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #98

The article doesn't say she was starting a campaign. Provide quotes stating she is not R B Garr Feb 2021 #99

And that line was written by the reporter Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #100

But the line is true, right? The left wing group Justice Democrats recruited AOC. R B Garr Feb 2021 #101

Yes they did Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #102

So you're saying the article isn't about AOC? R B Garr Feb 2021 #103

No I'm saying that the article Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #104

There are AOC quotes and Justice Democrat quotes. R B Garr Feb 2021 #105

Again I don't have to prove a negative Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #106

AOC has been quoted on this matter, as well as Justice R B Garr Feb 2021 #107

Then produce the quotes Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #108

I've asked for the quotes that say she is not running against him. R B Garr Feb 2021 #110

That is silly... tonedevil Feb 2021 #112

There are no quotes from AOC saying that Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #114

It fits the logic model. /nt tonedevil Feb 2021 #116

There are also no quotes of Nancy Pelosi denying Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #118

Except I don't have to prove a negative. Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #113

You are the one making the "allegation" that AOC R B Garr Feb 2021 #115

No never said she is not running Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #117

Yes, please stop playing games since you R B Garr Feb 2021 #119

Then post the AOC quotes you Googled Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #120

You are twisting what I said, so please quit playing games. R B Garr Feb 2021 #121

What quotes? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #122

LOL, the quotes are posted a few times in this thread, so please re-read. R B Garr Feb 2021 #123

That's not what the JD spokesman said Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #124

The female being discussed is AOC. R B Garr Feb 2021 #126

According to the reporter Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #127

That is just a weird bag of tricks you have going. R B Garr Feb 2021 #128

So the fuck what? tonedevil Feb 2021 #129

No tricks, just the truth Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #134

Your false construction again? There are also no quotes saying R B Garr Feb 2021 #135

There are no quotes that she's not a vampire either Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #136

Your whole premise about quotes is out the window when you apply basic R B Garr Feb 2021 #137

My whole premise is based on the truth Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #138

Your "premise" is your biased opinion, not "fact", LOL. Basic logic says that your R B Garr Feb 2021 #139

Projection Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #140

Your bias is actually the "projection" R B Garr Feb 2021 #143

No, just facts Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #145

I've asked for one quote saying that she is not considering running, yet you have none. R B Garr Feb 2021 #146

I don't have to prove a negative Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #149

lol, more of your convoluted rules about reading a simple article. Provide quotes R B Garr Feb 2021 #150

No That is twisted logic Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #155

There is no "allegation". There is a simple article that you are attempting to force your R B Garr Feb 2021 #156

Nope Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #158

Yup. You haven't produced one quote saying she is not running against Schumer. R B Garr Feb 2021 #159

Again twisted logic. I don't have to prove a negative. Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #160

Is there one quote from her saying she isn't running? R B Garr Feb 2021 #161

Nice evasion Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #162

At least you are off the "evasion" that this article R B Garr Feb 2021 #163

Great so you admit that when she was asked the question Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #164

Great, so you admit she didn't say she wasn't thinking R B Garr Feb 2021 #165

No never said the article wasn't about her Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #166

And her own words proved you wrong. She had input R B Garr Feb 2021 #167

Where? Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #168

You already posted it yourself. R B Garr Feb 2021 #169

No Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #170

She also never said she isn't running. Produce R B Garr Feb 2021 #171

Never said that so I don't have to prove a negative Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #173

She never said she wasn't running. Provide a quote R B Garr Feb 2021 #174

Yet still not what I said. Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #175

Fact: She also has not said she is not running. R B Garr Feb 2021 #176

Not the point Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #177

Is the point. Where has anyone "contended" that she *is* running, besides your false R B Garr Feb 2021 #178

Nope Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #179

Yup. Provide quotes that "contend" she is running, since all you have is your false R B Garr Feb 2021 #180

No Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #181

Yes. You wouldn't even admit this thread was about her until her own words R B Garr Feb 2021 #182

Nope Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #183

How do you tolerate such boldfaced lies? tonedevil Feb 2021 #185

Post quotes where someone says she is running. R B Garr Feb 2021 #186

No one said she's running Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #187

I'm glad you admit you've spent 2 days "contending" R B Garr Feb 2021 #188

Chatter, defined as Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #189

Isn't chatter right in the title? I think where you went wrong was R B Garr Feb 2021 #190

Bless your heart Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #191

You were even emphatic that it might not be about a female. R B Garr Feb 2021 #192

Nope Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #193

Yup. And I'm glad you finally focused on the R B Garr Feb 2021 #194

Always did Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #195

LOL R B Garr Feb 2021 #196

Bazinga! Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #197

Chatter. R B Garr Feb 2021 #198

LULZ Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #199

Yup. Thanks for confirming the unseriousness. R B Garr Feb 2021 #200

Piece together several of quotes of hers and one could easily draw that conclusion.... George II Feb 2021 #147

No that's is just not true. Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #148

It's almost as if there is no reason... tonedevil Feb 2021 #40

This was posted at least three times...and AOC is not threat to Schumer. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #14

Yet another Holly Gottawhine piece. Politico: where writers go to die. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #38

I've been wanting to say the same thing for a long time BlueLucy Feb 2021 #125

You want to critique someone's writing... tonedevil Feb 2021 #130

I don't know what you're talking about. BlueLucy Feb 2021 #131

NurseJackie called the author... tonedevil Feb 2021 #132

Perhaps BlueLucy was referring to the (correct) characterization of Politico? George II Feb 2021 #142

Since the subject of the post... tonedevil Feb 2021 #151

The subject line also contained "Politico: where writers go to die" George II Feb 2021 #152

If you think petty mockery is cool I can't stop you from showing us who you are. tonedevil Feb 2021 #153

So how, in your eyes, did I show "who I am", and what might that be? George II Feb 2021 #172

Someone who overlooks name calling. /nt tonedevil Feb 2021 #184

Very true about this reporter! If not for seeing AOCs R B Garr Feb 2021 #133

Hah, nice play on words - so who would write a shit-stirring article? "Holly wood"..... George II Feb 2021 #141

She's the type of reporter to cut and pasted a campaign PRESS RELEASE... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #144

At least she has a last name you can mock. /nt tonedevil Feb 2021 #154

... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #157

Wow, I can only see two responses! demmiblue Feb 2021 #50