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34. If you're not concerned about the midterms that's a problem. Every day we don't get results

Thu Feb 4, 2021, 06:32 PM

Feb 2021

is one day closer to being swept out. So lets not start off by breaking a promise, particularly with an own-goal on such a political winner, as giving checks to everyone. Obviously this reality, has upside as well, as we could be uniquely positioned as a party to be the party that governs as people's lives begin to come back to normal if all things go as planned.

That said we all need to be viscerally haunted by what happened in 2009 and 2010, so we do not make the same mistakes.

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Urgent: 9 Senate Democrats sponsor amendement to screw middle-income earners out [View all] liskddksil Feb 2021 OP

So, nine 'Democrats' need the concept of House of Roberts Feb 2021 #1

Where does that say anything about changing from $75-$50K? sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #2

This is under discussion. liskddksil Feb 2021 #5

So it doesn't actually say it - gotcha. sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #9

If you put 2 and 2 together it does nt liskddksil Feb 2021 #33

If you immediately assume the Dems are going to buckle, then maybe sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #38

Yes, but we don't have a lot to go on, other than hope that enough Senators get it. So far, Ossoff, liskddksil Feb 2021 #40

Do you honestly think it would be brought to the floor for vote if they didn't think they could pass sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #41

I don't think we're talking about the same thing. The question is would leadership put out a bill liskddksil Feb 2021 #69

Again I say, show me where in that amendment any of that happenz sweetloukillbot Feb 2021 #70

Unfortunately, $75,000 or $150,000 per couple is in the lower upper middleclass Blue_true Feb 2021 #52

No, not a good effort there. Kingofalldems Feb 2021 #47

Quite honestly, I don't need it and I don't want it. I'd rather it go to those more in need. Firestorm49 Feb 2021 #31

Great but we don't have the time to figure out who does or doesn't need it. We need liskddksil Feb 2021 #32

This is why I fear that this pandemic will destroy us. Yavin4 Feb 2021 #48

Bullshit. Cancel the F-35 boondoggle and we'd have plenty of money. Tommymac Feb 2021 #62

We need more public resources to adequately fight this pandemic, and we don't have them. Yavin4 Feb 2021 #66

A lower income target than the original seems reasonable. Blue_true Feb 2021 #53

That would hurt us. Blue_playwright Feb 2021 #3

That's fine. roamer65 Feb 2021 #4

I'm not against the idea of giving less the more you make mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #6

Bernie had a much better approach in his interview last liskddksil Feb 2021 #10

It is on a sliding scale, so it won't be a complete cutoff even at 50k. W_HAMILTON Feb 2021 #12

Devil is in the details. If I got the full amount, it would immediately go into the economy nt liskddksil Feb 2021 #17

It seems like under the new proposal, you WOULD get the full amount if you Blue_true Feb 2021 #54

Okay. Depending on how harshly it slides, I could possibly get behind this (nt) mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #21

Done! This really pisses me off! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2021 #7

CALL THE WHITE HOUSE....and your Reps and Senators. Lochloosa Feb 2021 #8

I haven't had luck yet with the Whitehouse comment line. Wonder if not everything liskddksil Feb 2021 #11

Manchin......It's always Manchin Champion Jack Feb 2021 #13

So far he hasn't despite having been in the Senate minority Hav Feb 2021 #44

He won't switch parties because he is a true Democrat. Blue_true Feb 2021 #57

$50K not middle income in CA crimycarny Feb 2021 #14

These guys are so out of touch its not even funny. Reason #48763 for term limits imo nt liskddksil Feb 2021 #16

Nor here in SOFL obamanut2012 Feb 2021 #19

There are people living in Silicon Valley Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #28

Yep--saw that outside of Stanford crimycarny Feb 2021 #39

My wife is a retired RN. Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #42

Business people making decisions based solely on the bottom line crimycarny Feb 2021 #43

At our hospital, which is a small one, Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #45

This is the exact kind of thing that makes people not trust democrats. Initech Feb 2021 #15

I'm already seeing it on Twitter and Reddit nt liskddksil Feb 2021 #18

...which we all know is an accurate reflection of voter opinions... brooklynite Feb 2021 #24

Ok, they do represent a portion of our base, especially the Young voters that we need to turn out nt liskddksil Feb 2021 #25

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Welcome! Hopefully we can talk some sense into them nt liskddksil Feb 2021 #22

Already concerned about the midterms? DesertRat Feb 2021 #30

If you're not concerned about the midterms that's a problem. Every day we don't get results liskddksil Feb 2021 #34

It will give people the impression that they are being screwed over Bettie Feb 2021 #63

And that's exactly how RW radio will spin it. Initech Feb 2021 #64

Yes, yes it will Bettie Feb 2021 #67

I'm personally sick and tired of the Hannitys and Limbaughs controlling the narrative. Initech Feb 2021 #68

To change the narrative, we need to get a voice on Bettie Feb 2021 #71

That's why we need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine. Initech Feb 2021 #72

Yeah it would Bettie Feb 2021 #73

"The chairman of the committee may revise the allocations" - Read the whole thing. Eid Ma Clack Shaw Feb 2021 #23

Why do they need to burnish their 'moderate' credentials? leftstreet Feb 2021 #26

Because either they agree with the GOP framing or they don't have any political instincts liskddksil Feb 2021 #29

...50k is NOT 'upper income' where I live. Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2021 #27

Manchin seems to think the entire nation has Nitro, West Virginia's costs of living and incomes Celerity Feb 2021 #37

In Silicon Valley, you could add another zero to those home prices. n/t Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #46

Not again, the Dems are negotiating themselves down. halfulglas Feb 2021 #35

At least Bernie, Wyden and Ossoff so far are against this. Hopefully more have our backs nt liskddksil Feb 2021 #36

Whether any of us think we need the money or not ... dawg Feb 2021 #49

I hope so, though not holding my breath nt liskddksil Feb 2021 #50

The new income range looks reasonable. Blue_true Feb 2021 #51

Are this the official numbers? Andy823 Feb 2021 #55

I don't think that they are official, or even real. Blue_true Feb 2021 #59

Not in a lot of places nt liskddksil Feb 2021 #60

A little data point for everyone's consideration gratuitous Feb 2021 #56

Would it be better to increase the amount given to low income? Kaleva Feb 2021 #58

My husband and I do not need the stimulus, marie999 Feb 2021 #61

Yes. The big purpose of giving it to you and us Hortensis Feb 2021 #65