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21. YEP ... American History X

Fri Feb 5, 2021, 10:19 AM

Feb 2021

GREAT movie with Edward Norton on American Nazis.

Stacy Keach's character was the guy who was behind the movement in their area, and he never went out to do shit, or even go their parties. He stayed back in the clubhouse, got in the heads of the "mid level" ones to be the leaders.

You can bet there are types like that who really orchestrated it from afar, utilizing some of the ex (or current) military or law enforcement types who naturally function as mid level leaders in chain of command to lead and carry it out.

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Massive trove of cell phone location shows 40% of those who went to rally then went to Capital [View all] kpete Feb 2021 OP

I would also be interested in the opposite genxlib Feb 2021 #1

The milling around crowd... 2naSalit Feb 2021 #2

Absolutely! SheltieLover Feb 2021 #3

As was the timing Chainfire Feb 2021 #5

Exactly. The women's groups had their role to play. blm Feb 2021 #7

Where did the lumber and rope for the gallows come from and who erected it? CottonBear Feb 2021 #4

WH's work shops? NCjack Feb 2021 #6

If you think the FBI is going to take this lightly...guess agian... diverdownjt Feb 2021 #9

I'm betting against that happening. BComplex Feb 2021 #10

I agree. I'm sure the FBI is closing in on the the insurrectionists. CottonBear Feb 2021 #11

I have no doubt the FBI is taking this seriously, crickets Feb 2021 #52

I'd hope they're not releasing everything... GopherGal Feb 2021 #54

I wouldn't Rebl2 Feb 2021 #17

Agree their to-do list was about the Capitol. But it's believed Hortensis Feb 2021 #16

YEP ... American History X Cosmocat Feb 2021 #21

I agree, GREAT movie! Nt Heartstrings Feb 2021 #24

Yes, people like Alex Jones kept their distance LeftInTX Feb 2021 #31

BINGO! n/t Eyeball_Kid Feb 2021 #23

Tough to gather. carpetbagger Feb 2021 #53

That's 16000 people ... OK, that's a lot of people the FBI needs to charge with felony tresspassing uponit7771 Feb 2021 #8

As crazy as this sounds there was a permitted event on Capitol Grounds bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #12

This permit fact is very big, with big implications. ancianita Feb 2021 #14

The issue of internet phone service is very interesting, and your prior Hortensis Feb 2021 #18

I'm not even sure ancianita Feb 2021 #20

It certainly makes sense from a security standpoint. Hortensis Feb 2021 #25

Yes. ancianita Feb 2021 #28

Whatever, it's likely we don't know a few things we need Hortensis Feb 2021 #34

Often times in the past it was a capacity issue bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #39

A PING is not the same as access to the cell network. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2021 #26

Okay, thanks. Then what is a ping, exactly? ancianita Feb 2021 #35

GPS location does not require cell service! LeftInTX Feb 2021 #45

Ah. I see. Thank you. ancianita Feb 2021 #48

I read they turned off cell coverage when the bombs were discovered (1/6) LeftInTX Feb 2021 #27

Very cool point. I guess most civilians don't think like that. One would think, though, ancianita Feb 2021 #29

They were discovered just before it happened.. LeftInTX Feb 2021 #30

I'm surprised there wasn't some immediate comms to US Capitol police and local bomb squads, ancianita Feb 2021 #36

:) Oh, I don't know about the "thinking like that." Hortensis Feb 2021 #37

I hear you. I get it. One reason I said "I guess." ancianita Feb 2021 #40

And domestic white power terrorism IS of course being Hortensis Feb 2021 #41

The reason that ancianita Feb 2021 #42

:) And all the while keeping authoritarian advocates for Hortensis Feb 2021 #43

Absolutely. ancianita Feb 2021 #44

The penalties should include life sentences for bomb makers, planters and any other weaponry used. ancianita Feb 2021 #46

No real quarrel with that, although it's reportedly not much of a deterrent Hortensis Feb 2021 #51

I read the bombs were planted to be discovered just before the insurrection. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #56

Got a link? Unless any bomb planters admitted this, it's conjecture. Just sayin'. ancianita Feb 2021 #58

It was widely reported that the police believed this was the situation. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #59

I'd thought the rally was permitted, but not the march or occupying the Capitol grounds. maxsolomon Feb 2021 #32

What? That's a big number. Where do you get it from, again? ancianita Feb 2021 #13

"in and around" means they trespassed because the Capital grounds were barricaded with barriers and uponit7771 Feb 2021 #15

I get that part, thanks. It's your number I don't get. "In and around" can mean DC residents, ancianita Feb 2021 #19

The violence was clearly planned by the coup plotters dalton99a Feb 2021 #22

Everyone's missing the point here. The point is *this data set itself* and how and why it was WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #33

Regarding only the numbers involved, I noticed on video, around the time Hortensis Feb 2021 #38

I'm surprised there were only 130 individuals inside the Capitol building during the siege. nt WarGamer Feb 2021 #47

130 devices. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #55

150 were arrested, and it's estimated that up to 800 were in the building. ancianita Feb 2021 #57

And many of these are the idiots who won't take a COVID vaccince because of a tracking chip Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 #49

You can run but, you cannot hide....especially when you Billytee Feb 2021 #50