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In reply to the discussion: Before you throw out the next Nazi, Hitler, Goebbels slur... [View all]fishwax
(29,346 posts)And I reject the folding of "fascism" into that bundle.
They are all connected, of course, but not the same. I would agree with Frieberg that we should be very wary of drawing on "The Holocaust" as a simple shorthand for evil or good vs. evil. If someone were to compare the Muslim Travel Ban to the Holocaust, that would be absurd and offensive. If someone were to refer to the child separation/detention policy as "The American Holocaust," that would certainly be beyond the pale, and Frieberg's objection would certainly come into play.
But the Nazis and Nazism existed prior to the Holocaust and Nazism didn't disappear when the camps were liberated. And while they haven't obviously haven't achieved an evil on the level of the holocaust, there are real living people whose blood has been shed and whose lives have been stolen at the hands of these folks. They're not simply, as you've said elsewhere, like kids from Kansas who grew up with Yankees posters on the wall and think they're Yankees. They're not just fanboys. People have suffered and died at their hands and for their cause.
Don't get me wrong, I certainly think care should be used in such comparisons, but the barrier for these comparisons is, in my opinion, rather significantly lower than with "The Holocaust," because the latter term is both more precise/specialized and more sacrosanct.
"Perhaps most popular this year have been accusations of Nazism and fascism against federal authorities for their treatment of children separated from their parents at the US border with Mexico.
Fascism exists independently of the Holocaust and even of Nazism, and is very much still with us. It's not even in the same league as a term like "The Holocaust."