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Nevilledog

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Sat Feb 6, 2021, 05:06 PM Feb 2021

The Democratic Party Has a Fatal Misunderstanding of the QAnon Phenomenon [View all]



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Ben Collins
@oneunderscore__
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Feb 6, 2021
This is a very good piece. I haven't seen ties between QAnon and poverty or even education level. The ties are mostly circumstantial, like sudden losses of a job or a loved one, and -- more importantly -- how much people know about how the internet works.

The Democratic Party Has a Fatal Misunderstanding of the QAnon Phenomenon
Their belief that this surreal conspiracy has arisen because of the poor education of its adherents is based in classism, not reality.
newrepublic.com

Ben Collins
@oneunderscore__
There are other, obvious, non-exclusive ties among QAnon followers -- deep belief in the omnipresence of Satanists, racism, antisemitism, etc. But traditional education level and income is all over the place.
2:02 PM · Feb 6, 2021


https://newrepublic.com/article/161266/qanon-classism-marjorie-taylor-greene

The Democratic Party Has a Fatal Misunderstanding of the QAnon Phenomenon
Their belief that this surreal conspiracy has arisen because of the poor education of its adherents is based in classism, not reality.


On Thursday, the House voted to strip Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of her committee assignments, putting an end to one chapter of what’s sure to be an ongoing saga in the chamber’s Republican caucus. In a meandering nonapology in the hours before the vote, Greene, who has endorsed an impressive array of conspiracy theories, including QAnon and claims that Hillary Clinton had raped, mutilated, and consumed the blood of a child, characterized negative coverage of her as—surprise, surprise—more “cancel culture” run amok. While Greene’s rise bodes poorly for the country, some have already decided her newfound celebrity is good news for the Democratic Party’s electoral prospects. On Tuesday, Politico reported that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee intends to focus on QAnon in its messaging, ahead of the 2022 midterms, in the hopes that the specter of more Greenes in Congress will push more people away from the GOP. “They can do QAnon, or they can do college-educated voters,” DCCC Chair Sean Patrick Maloney said. “They cannot do both.”

Actually, they can. Trying to tether the GOP more tightly to the extremism it’s cultivated makes sense, and the strategy may help prevent some moderate suburbanites from returning to the party’s inordinately big tent. But polls have shown few differences on QAnon between voters with and without college degrees—Civiqs’s latest survey, for instance, registers 72 percent opposition and 5 percent support for the theory among graduates. The split is 71 to 5 among nongraduates and 78 to 3 among postgraduates. And, notably, Americans without college degrees are less likely than graduates to have heard of QAnon in the first place. If this is a surprise, consider the fact that Greene herself went to college. And when she runs for reelection next year, she’s sure to enjoy the support of many college-educated Republicans who, whether they personally believe in QAnon or not, want to keep as many right-wing firebrands as they can in Congress. Those who think such voters will inevitably doom the party would do well to remember the 2010 midterms—despite the Tea Party’s rhetoric and antics, Republicans took the House in a historic wave.

Of all the “big lies” distorting our politics, one of the largest and most popular—back in 2010 and now—has been the notion that our political divisions are the product of under- or miseducation. The Republican Party’s flight into lunacy, it’s often suggested, has a fairly simple cause. The unwashed aren’t getting The Facts in school or from their media sources, and it’s up to the enlightened to shower The Facts upon them—perhaps, as some “disinformation” experts recently suggested to The New York Times, with a “reality czar” at the White House manning the hose. This was the explanation many turned to as the Trump era began, and it was the explanation many turned to for how it ended. Take the remarkable lede that topped a piece from The Atlantic’s Caitlin Flanagan on the Capitol rioters last month:

Here they were, a coalition of the willing: deadbeat dads, YouPorn enthusiasts, slow students, and MMA fans. They had heard the rebel yell, packed up their Confederate flags and Trump banners, and GPS-ed their way to Washington. After a few wrong turns, they had pulled into the swamp with bellies full of beer and Sausage McMuffins, maybe a little high on Adderall, ready to get it done.

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I have come to pretty much the same conclusion.... TheRealNorth Feb 2021 #1
Yes! It's about having an enemy...good vs evil.... lisa58 Feb 2021 #3
Your important point is the demonization of Democrats that Repubs have seen as vital to winning wishstar Feb 2021 #7
"We don't want lower bread prices, we don't want higher bread prices..." Mike 03 Feb 2021 #8
Jesus that is a scary paragraph BlueNProud Feb 2021 #20
This sounds like something Chump could have said FakeNoose Feb 2021 #28
Hitler appealed to those most affected by Turbineguy Feb 2021 #2
You are in the right ball park here... lees1975 Feb 2021 #39
Paradoxically, QAnon tends to attract semi-SMART people Withywindle Feb 2021 #4
+1. Q and other conspiracies attract people trying to make sense of the world andym Feb 2021 #10
Sounds like whoever is behind Q TheRealNorth Feb 2021 #41
Psychologists will point out that most people drawn to conspiracy theories feel a lack of control Quixote1818 Feb 2021 #5
Yet another Only-I-Can-Fix-It. Gee, glad the Democratic Party has concerned, omniscient saviors. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #6
Wake up America! oasis Feb 2021 #9
Nonsense to the hit on the Democratic leadership. Dunning-Kruger is ALSO Hortensis Feb 2021 #11
True enough. Getting kooks, half-smarts and not-so-smarts to think they're the smartest people... brush Feb 2021 #23
Yes. Besides the kind of limits you describe, we need at least Hortensis Feb 2021 #27
Cure, please? czarjak Feb 2021 #12
The Q-types are simply part of the shittiest people in our nation. Progressive Jones Feb 2021 #13
This is nonsense. coti Feb 2021 #14
Racism by any other name would smell . . . . Edwcraig Feb 2021 #15
oh my. And here I thought people were people... stillcool Feb 2021 #16
I noticed that as soon as the virtual Wanted posters started going up: lots of educated white collar Hekate Feb 2021 #17
JMHO, but suspect the brains/DNA of these believers DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #18
What a bunch of HORSESHIT! maxrandb Feb 2021 #19
This. Tommymac Feb 2021 #37
I agree with your goal TheRealNorth Feb 2021 #42
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 Make their association with anything MAGA painful af uponit7771 Feb 2021 #51
Not this shit again. Where do they get money for their guns, and boats for the ugly ass JI7 Feb 2021 #21
Rather than go to college (or send their kids to college) TheRealNorth Feb 2021 #45
A fatal misunderstanding of racism, sexism as well as other "isns" ismnotwasm Feb 2021 #22
Perhaps a different kind of education than traditional education *might* help Silent3 Feb 2021 #24
Critical thinking would seem to me to be a quality obtained in the combination elevator Feb 2021 #33
"more importantly, how the internet works" - what does this mean? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2021 #25
I'd be surprised if the uneducated, less intelligent part of the population was into Qanon Klaralven Feb 2021 #26
Add Mysteries to the list of genres Withywindle Feb 2021 #30
I believe Q was/is a Russian/Chinese/Iranian cointel op... WarGamer Feb 2021 #29
What a "College Education" means depends on the college attended and the courses taken. harumph Feb 2021 #31
Trump "college" alumni probably well represented. nt live love laugh Feb 2021 #50
Very good article, rings true. radius777 Feb 2021 #32
No, no, no. betsuni Feb 2021 #34
It's a horrible flat world these people live in. Sadly, they bring that misery to our world. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #35
You're welcome! betsuni Feb 2021 #38
Carl Jung has been in the ground for sixty years. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2021 #43
Who doesn't know Jung is dead and not a scientist? betsuni Feb 2021 #46
Did somebody present your mother as an authority on the human mind? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2021 #47
.... betsuni Feb 2021 #48
Did anyone say Jung wasn't dead and was a scientist? No. betsuni Feb 2021 #49
I don't understand why you're struggling with this. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2021 #53
Fatal? Biden approval is at 66 percent. We flipped GA. nolabear Feb 2021 #36
I suspect that class is an important indicator. David__77 Feb 2021 #40
We have failed with certain demographics because we view conservatism as a symptom of stupidity. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2021 #44
Excellent summary. Thank you. n/t OneGrassRoot Feb 2021 #52
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