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Hermit-The-Prog

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Mon Feb 8, 2021, 02:56 PM
Feb 2021

From https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2021/02/housemanagersreply_020821.pdf


First Amendment: President Trump’s incitement of insurrection was itself a frontal assault on the First Amendment. As a matter of law and logic — not to mention simple common sense — his attempted reliance on free speech principles is utterly baseless. See Trial Memo at 45 - 48.

The Answer claims that the Article of Impeachment “misconstrues protected speech.” Answer at 10. For instance, it contends that there is “insufficient evidence” to decide whether any of 3 President Trump’s statements at the January 6 rally were “accurate or not.” Id. at 4. It further asserts that one of President Trump’s statements — “if you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore” — was “clearly about the need for fight for election security in general.” Id. at 6. Finally, it declares that President Trump never “threatened Secretary Raffensperger.” Id. at 8.

To call these responses implausible would be an act of charity. President Trump’s repeated claims about a “rigged” and “stolen” election were false, no matter how many contortions his lawyers undertake to avoid saying so. When President Trump demanded that the armed, angry crowd at his Save America Rally “fight like hell” or “you’re not going to have a country anymore,” he wasn’t urging them to form political action committees about “election security in general.” And when the President of the United States demanded that Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger “find” enough votes to overturn the election — or else face “a big risk to you” and “a criminal offense” — that was obviously a threat, one which reveals his state of mind (and his desperation to try to retain power by any means necessary). The House looks forward to proving each of these points at trial.

Also, to be clear, this is not a case about “protected speech.” The House did not impeach President Trump because he expressed an unpopular political opinion. It impeached him because he willfully incited violent insurrection against the government. We live in a Nation governed by the rule of law, not mob violence incited by Presidents who cannot accept their own electoral defeat.

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Put on your boots people - the tsunami of bullshit from the RePutinicans and Faux kicks into NoMoreRepugs Feb 2021 #1
Boots, hell. We're gonna need waders! ShazzieB Feb 2021 #4
Hell we are going to have put on diving suits this is going to get deep in BS turbinetree Feb 2021 #6
Oh I like your post. Butterflylady Feb 2021 #10
Started yesterday on the Sunday News shows with Lady G & Rand n/t aggiesal Feb 2021 #11
a bit more ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #2
That last paragraph. Wonderful. Grokenstein Feb 2021 #17
Senate Repugs have put plugs in their ears and blinders over their eyes. riversedge Feb 2021 #3
That's it in a nutshell, KS Toronado Feb 2021 #5
And that's why this will really be a trial of them before the public localroger Feb 2021 #7
And their hands on their checkbooks and eyes on their bank accounts. n/t Paper Roses Feb 2021 #14
K & R..Thank You for Posting.. Stuart G Feb 2021 #8
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #9
The First Amendment is not designed to protect the government from the people, soldierant Feb 2021 #12
I'm ready for the mud-slinging! lindysalsagal Feb 2021 #13
yes bdamomma Feb 2021 #15
Seems very solid to me. Me...the guy with no education whatsoever in Constitutional law. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #16
Rt TY Goth! Cha Feb 2021 #18
I guess Trump has officially conceded. LOL nt Quixote1818 Feb 2021 #19
The law professor cited by trump atty concluded late impeachment and removal are constitutional. Gothmog Feb 2021 #20
The 22 rethug senators with a JD should get MyMission Feb 2021 #22
House managers rebut Trump team's calls to dismiss impeachment case, say evidence is 'overwhelming' Gothmog Feb 2021 #21
The law professor cited by the trump team is unhappy Gothmog Feb 2021 #23
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