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moonscape

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93. Not sure there's anyone at this point who thinks he'll be convicted, but

Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:58 PM

Feb 2021

we need this as a case for the American people today and for history.

I've a very liberal friend who thinks we shouldn't even have the trial since he won't be convicted and it's just taking up agenda time. That argument loses me. It basically says that if the Republicans plan to act in a brazen immoral way, we should just walk away and not bother. This trial is important on so many levels, regardless of the vote.

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Boom! MSNBC is reporting impeachment managers will show new evidence [View all] RDANGELO Feb 2021 OP

He was laying the ground work for months by saying that livetohike Feb 2021 #1

Yes. Replacing the Pentagon leaders for no reason was to help his terrorist gangs. Lonestarblue Feb 2021 #7

And one of those (Miller) ordering the National Guard to stand down, on Jan 4th. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #45

Exactly! TomSlick Feb 2021 #97

I hope the impeachment managers have lots of visual aids livetohike Feb 2021 #76

Yes he was! liberalla Feb 2021 #62

He even said this before the 2016 election. He always planned to cry foul if he lost lettucebe Feb 2021 #74

He cried foul when he won. alfredo Feb 2021 #98

Not known for being quick on his feet Trump still managed to respond in the debate for the Dustlawyer Feb 2021 #83

That wasn't quick on his feet. Lasher Feb 2021 #84

That was my point. Dustlawyer Feb 2021 #87

Excellent. Silver Gaia Feb 2021 #2

I actually believe the before and the after are what will take him down mucifer Feb 2021 #3

+1000 Refusing to send help will damn him. If not in Senate, in criminal court. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #46

Remind everyone DeSmet Feb 2021 #58

As long as SOMETHING does!!! calimary Feb 2021 #103

Trump could walk up and shoot someone in the face on video and they would aquit, Beachnutt Feb 2021 #4

Horrible as that sounds... ailsagirl Feb 2021 #29

They could have a video mindfulNJ Feb 2021 #5

That wouldn't be believable MiniMe Feb 2021 #39

HA! mindfulNJ Feb 2021 #42

He would use golf cart. Jetheels Feb 2021 #57

Trump said he'd join them on the way to the Capitol. It was another lie. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2021 #60

Plus, he knew it was going to be dangerous. colorado_ufo Feb 2021 #68

The case probably starts with the stand down and stand by to the proud boys. dem4decades Feb 2021 #6

It Was "Stand Back" ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #50

When it comes for the anus North Shore Chicago Feb 2021 #8

Trump's own words from Dec. 2020 .... "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!" Botany Feb 2021 #9

Trump and his cabal deserve full punishment for this. livetohike Feb 2021 #13

And two days before the Pro Trump riot/coup Trump's acting Defense Sec. gave a stand down order .... Botany Feb 2021 #16

yeah, that memo kinda takes the "speculation" out of it. theneworiginal Feb 2021 #51

The use of the phrase "riot control agents" 2 days before the Trump riot kind of takes ... Botany Feb 2021 #54

Why didn't they just paint targets on their backs? colorado_ufo Feb 2021 #70

The damning part should be that, while the Capitol was under attack SledDriver Feb 2021 #10

AND that tape of them in the tent celebrating while watching it on tv! fierywoman Feb 2021 #14

That is one of the damning pieces of wnylib Feb 2021 #18

Actually that was before his speech, not after. nt LittleGirl Feb 2021 #23

+1000 llmart Feb 2021 #43

The clips from in the tent were made before Trump spoke 56miSSie Feb 2021 #79

But of course he knew they were not after him. wnylib Feb 2021 #15

Oh yes, that's a good point PatSeg Feb 2021 #20

During the terrorist attack on 9/11... AllyCat Feb 2021 #31

Yes, I believe they were moved. secondwind Feb 2021 #47

Shrub was shuttled around the country on AF-1 then taken to a secure base csziggy Feb 2021 #75

K&R spanone Feb 2021 #11

The fallout from this impeachment trial bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #12

it will be the end of the political careers of those who vote to acquit. mopinko Feb 2021 #19

"For some still unexplained reason" orangecrush Feb 2021 #25

You've got THAT right. n/t Eyeball_Kid Feb 2021 #34

The Q world was created to focus anxiety and anger on specific targets. Ford_Prefect Feb 2021 #49

Oh, this is going to be must-see television! PatSeg Feb 2021 #17

I agree,,,, KarenS Feb 2021 #38

Seth Abramson has been reporting on a January 5th meeting NewJeffCT Feb 2021 #21

Yes - he's collected and curated the best reporting on this issue Ramsey Barner Feb 2021 #69

Don't want to be a Debbie Downer Soxfan58 Feb 2021 #22

The point is Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #30

Plus, it's important to get this in front of the American people. Ligyron Feb 2021 #37

They're already on record. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #44

I believe that most won't suffer politically. Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #48

I agree with this comment! nt ShazzieB Feb 2021 #90

+1 n/t area51 Feb 2021 #33

Not sure there's anyone at this point who thinks he'll be convicted, but moonscape Feb 2021 #93

Watch for it to leak from Leningrad Lindsey before it's presented. NT SayItLoud Feb 2021 #24

Thankfully, he's not an impeachment manager... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #27

There is ALWAYS more than what we're seeing in the press... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #26

This trial is for us to see the whole thing... 2naSalit Feb 2021 #28

Subpoenae the orange menace nightwing1240 Feb 2021 #32

Trump and his army should be locked up! In_The_Wind Feb 2021 #35

I think they could have all the evidence in the world and blueinredohio Feb 2021 #36

I want to see My Pillow guy testify with his "absolute proof". keithbvadu2 Feb 2021 #40

The GQP has turned it into a matter of political party rather than an individual case. world wide wally Feb 2021 #41

Oct 30 and Nov 1 FOX News polls safeinOhio Feb 2021 #52

And the fact that Trump has never even topped a 50% approval rating. MoonchildCA Feb 2021 #59

It won't matter to any Repubs... Jon King Feb 2021 #53

I hope so these bastards samplegirl Feb 2021 #55

What really gets me... karin_sj Feb 2021 #56

Why are they called managers? In court they'd be prosecutors, in the Senate, idk bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #61

Love that there is new evidence...but it won't matter to most of GOP senators. They are cultists iluvtennis Feb 2021 #63

Cultists AND cowards. Elwood P Dowd Feb 2021 #72

If 10 cowards stay home to avoid MyMission Feb 2021 #81

Of course, he knew peggysue2 Feb 2021 #64

+1 MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #101

The House managers need to make sure to include Trump's statements concerning... LudwigPastorius Feb 2021 #65

Their trial brief makes it clear they're going to emphasize how much Trump would have known highplainsdem Feb 2021 #66

The idea of PARDONS was implanted Pantagruel Feb 2021 #67

I wonder whether it is partially related to a meeting on the 5th? triron Feb 2021 #71

I'm now on the edge of my seat, waiting to find out what this is. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #73

He planned the whole thing knowing people would die. He needs to be portrayed ooky Feb 2021 #77

Regardless of what happens in the Senate trial h2ebits Feb 2021 #78

I hope bunny planet Feb 2021 #80

He said, "Stand back and stand by," Wednesdays Feb 2021 #82

Then, he told them: "And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore" Lock him up. Feb 2021 #86

ISN'T THAT TREASON?? trueblue2007 Feb 2021 #85

In most countries it would be, soldierant Feb 2021 #91

No, it is treason even under US law. triron Feb 2021 #92

Article III, Section 3 soldierant Feb 2021 #104

Nail him! Joinfortmill Feb 2021 #88

Smoking gun as it were. Cha Feb 2021 #89

knr triron Feb 2021 #94

Got my fingers crossed this is a game changer. Nitram Feb 2021 #95

Remember Fitzmas and Mueller Poiuyt Feb 2021 #96

tRump will look SO GOOD IN AN ORANGE JUMP SUIT!!! TigressDem Feb 2021 #99

That Means Nothing DallasNE Feb 2021 #100

It will mean something if public opinion turns against the Republican Party RDANGELO Feb 2021 #102