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JanMichael

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115. I cannot believe the people here that think she should resign.

Tue Feb 9, 2021, 06:30 PM

Feb 2021

Sure it was not a cool thing to say. Not for me and especially not for someone that is in the international spotlight.

That said it is like (this is a slight deviation from where I started) people that think that only gay people can play gay characters in movies. Or only autistic people can play autistic characters in movies. Sure Tom Cruise being the Last Samurai....ok I lost my train of thought again.

I guess I'm not a purist or think every slight is worth killing people politically over ala Franken. ALL people have flaws. We all have them. We have likely all said or even...shudder..."thought" things that we now find wrong.

This is also akin to the "Old Bolsheviks" who were executed. Let's not purge the left until there is like one person left that never had an impure thought.

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Biden Press Secretary Jen Psaki Called Out for 'Homophobic' Tweet Mocking Lindsey Graham as 'Lady G' [View all] marble falls Feb 2021 OP

This is why we can't engage in such crap. We are supposed to be the good guys. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #1

And we are always at a disadvantage on hypocrisy Still Sensible Feb 2021 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #139

Band aid underpants Feb 2021 #2

If, by rip it off, you mean learn from it, apologize, and move on Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #163

Yep. Most tweeting are R's. The Reagan Battalion? Reagan was horrific to the LGBTQ community. TheBlackAdder Feb 2021 #199

Let him or her who is without sin grumpyduck Feb 2021 #3

Better yet: she says she was wrong, a bit insensitve, apologize and then never does it again ... marble falls Feb 2021 #12

Apologize and move on. Beakybird Feb 2021 #4

This. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2021 #7

Yes elleng Feb 2021 #16

Agreed. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #18

+1 demmiblue Feb 2021 #81

Yes. n/t ornotna Feb 2021 #113

Or better still, just move on. BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #140

Yes, enough time has passed. No reason to freshen the mild transgression in people's memories. Beakybird Feb 2021 #146

Post removed Post removed Feb 2021 #5

No she is great. She doesn't have to go. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #10

Are you joking? Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #11

Nope. Not even a little. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #17

Um...OK. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #33

And if this was Trumps Press secretary? SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #39

Were ifs and buts, candies and nuts, what a party it would be. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #56

uh huh. Sure. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #59

Nope. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #62

How about not cutting the damn nose in the first place? SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #65

She hasn't cut off her nose. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #67

No I am asking for a press secretary that doesn't use homophobic slurs. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #70

An actual apology should suffice. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #74

For you? Ok. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #77

You've not been paying attention to DU. I've lost count how many people use that slur here. cwydro Feb 2021 #111

Skewer. +1. bullimiami Feb 2021 #38

And if it were Trumps PS calling Pete Lady B? SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #42

No. I would think it was stupid, tonedeaf and insensitive and if they apologized bullimiami Feb 2021 #49

He's called LadyG for his faux outrage 'vapors' blm Feb 2021 #57

I don't care why he is called it. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #63

Nah, it's not. blm Feb 2021 #71

Yes it is. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #165

actually no that isn't why he is called that dsc Feb 2021 #94

This GoneOffShore Feb 2021 #98

Wow. Even some of our best - like Obama - Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #164

Seriously? StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #25

I didn't call myself perfect in the slightest. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #37

If she was a republican and apologized it would be the same reality. bullimiami Feb 2021 #40

Uh hub. Sure. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #45

And kudos to you as well... LanternWaste Feb 2021 #102

If she was a republican, she would have doubled down and would have refused to apologized. smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #121

+1. Who is their next target in the purification drive? dalton99a Feb 2021 #136

She said it in August - Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #166

I don't know because I have never seen a Republican Bettie Feb 2021 #167

NO. Jen is not "the devil," for fuck's sake. She was referring to current events. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #43

Oh I see. Because others say it. It's cool. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #48

No, she was referring to the nickname given to the hypocrite by male sex workers. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #61

Public figures can't sue for defamation. former9thward Feb 2021 #122

Public figures can indeed sue for defamation, they just have a higher burden of proof. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #124

It was a figure of speech. former9thward Feb 2021 #131

Jesse Ventura. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #152

Except he didn't. former9thward Feb 2021 #158

Except he did. Only the "unjust enrichment" claim was thrown out, not defamation. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #159

Not true. former9thward Feb 2021 #175

No, what is not true is your claim that "Public figures can't sue for defamation." SunSeeker Feb 2021 #183

You are making up everything. former9thward Feb 2021 #185

I did not make up your wrong claim that "Public figures can't sue for defamation." SunSeeker Feb 2021 #186

I deal in the real world, not in the world where you look up the law on google. former9thward Feb 2021 #189

No, you misstate the law. You said, "Public figures can't sue for defamation." SunSeeker Feb 2021 #190

Any lawyer would laugh at your post. former9thward Feb 2021 #201

no uponit7771 Feb 2021 #47

Disagree. JDC Feb 2021 #69

Oh please..the Republicans want her to go. Just as they wanted helpisontheway Feb 2021 #76

Totally different scenario. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #78

Absolutely wrong. She stays!!!! LiberalFighter Feb 2021 #95

ok. Let me know which one of us actually decides. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #99

Hence, the irrelevancy of all our opinions. LanternWaste Feb 2021 #103

Well I will drink to that. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #106

HELL NO. You know what I find more offensive? The incessant and relentless LIES Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #107

She is doing an amazing job which is why Bettie Feb 2021 #169

EXACTLY! This is why I get so mad when I hear democrats repeating RW talking points Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #178

And when there are mountains on the other side Bettie Feb 2021 #179

YES! That double standard infuriates me to no end, too. The media Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #180

The double standard right now, with regard to Unity Bettie Feb 2021 #181

Lol. Yea. Unreal,huh? I just have 2 words: Screw. That. Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #182

This is where the derision for "cancel culture" comes from. Silent3 Feb 2021 #109

Intentionally misgendering gay men is an insult that is as old as dirt. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #168

But it isn't just misgendering here Silent3 Feb 2021 #172

Using a homophobic/transphobic/sexist slur to point out hypocrisy Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #173

And everyone who doesn't go along with your Pronouncement from on High... Silent3 Feb 2021 #174

You obviously have not read my comments in this thread - Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #177

Nope. We already lost Al Franken over this bullshit SoonerPride Feb 2021 #114

No, she doesn't. kcr Feb 2021 #128

She shouldn't have done it, unless she is bi or a lesbian. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #6

That's my point. She's not homophobic that I can see. She was going after Lindsey's goat ... marble falls Feb 2021 #19

Exactly! There is a difference between being a homophobe and saying/doing something homophobic. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #29

Graham called himself Lady G online, before anyone else did Clash City Rocker Feb 2021 #8

Do you have a source for that? TwilightZone Feb 2021 #14

When did Lindsey ever call himself "MissG". He has explicitly denied being gay ... marble falls Feb 2021 #27

I believe someone said that Graham called himself Lady G online LeftInTX Feb 2021 #36

Well bdamomma Feb 2021 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueLucy Feb 2021 #13

1. Yes, it was way bad. 2. If a Republican had done this, what would they do? Stinky The Clown Feb 2021 #15

Absolutely. And maybe a few of us on DU need to pay attention to that. marble falls Feb 2021 #30

Or if a republican had done it... SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #31

And no matter what we said, they would ignore it. Stinky The Clown Feb 2021 #60

Offensive statements are so much the norm for Qs Crunchy Frog Feb 2021 #91

That's disappointing. I thought better of her. crickets Feb 2021 #21

She'd been excellent working as press seretary. marble falls Feb 2021 #35

Rise up in outrage and "Franken" her! JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2021 #22

She's not being Frankened by anybody. Not even all the crocodile teared GOPers tweeting ... marble falls Feb 2021 #51

That's a perfect analogy. Franken. Exactly. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #55

The OP seems to be really invested in this particular issue. BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #142

Three or four OP's and a poll to boot... I think your observations are right on target. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #151

Apologize and move on ... StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #23

exactly-- it's not complicated LymphocyteLover Feb 2021 #153

Nobody was mocking his sexuality. At least not me. Lunabell Feb 2021 #24

It's pretty clearly a shot at his sexuality. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #41

Absolutely she should apologize. Lunabell Feb 2021 #54

This. cwydro Feb 2021 #205

It is not OK to call him Lady G. She should apologize and stop doing it. nt gollygee Feb 2021 #26

Meh. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #28

Just call it a term of endearment and move on kiranon Feb 2021 #32

Meh, 450,000 dead. Some of ye would want to get over yourselves. OnDoutside Feb 2021 #34

She did NOT call him that arlyellowdog Feb 2021 #44

OMG - our side MUST BE PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW. Meanwhile, back in Trumpville, they'll Vinca Feb 2021 #46

Thank you. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #50

Thank YOU, Vinca! smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #125

She should just call him "Piece of shit Graham" and be done with it. dem4decades Feb 2021 #52

Or "Dirty Money" ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #108

I think foreign money is more likely to be the case JonLP24 Feb 2021 #188

Enough bpj62 Feb 2021 #53

OK, then. A six-day-old hit-piece story about Jen Psaki, MineralMan Feb 2021 #58

I saw this article on a queer site 7 days ago! Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #64

It was a thoroughly regrettable comment at the time. MineralMan Feb 2021 #73

I know Marble Falls is HIGHLY unlikely to be trolling. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #79

I don't excuse the use of that nickname at all. MineralMan Feb 2021 #84

To be very clear... Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #86

There are problems and then there are PROBLEMS. MineralMan Feb 2021 #88

No, we are not in opposition. Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #92

I get it. The whole thing was avoidable, frankly. MineralMan Feb 2021 #93

This is not a hit piece. It would never take any attention from the impeachment trial ... marble falls Feb 2021 #83

Well, I don't care what Graham's sexuality is. MineralMan Feb 2021 #87

I noticed. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #68

Yes. Well, I'm pleased to see that this thread is not getting recced. MineralMan Feb 2021 #75

You are not alone in that observation. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #82

Thank you for pointing that out... tonedevil Feb 2021 #197

Moving along rurallib Feb 2021 #66

I know! Weird, huh? NurseJackie Feb 2021 #105

I don't like it either. KentuckyWoman Feb 2021 #72

Gosh, from the headline I thought she'd said it from the WH podium just today.... Hekate Feb 2021 #80

But Graham is straight. If anything this is just a tease for him being a wimp Buckeyeblue Feb 2021 #85

Maybe give her a show on MSNBC redstateblues Feb 2021 #89

I've heard some women say that their husbands sometimes tavernier Feb 2021 #90

You mean, five months before she became press secretary? mac56 Feb 2021 #96

Indeed. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #97

The OP has proven to be extremely interested in this particular subject. BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #144

She should say "I regret some people got upset at my choice of words". And move on. Autumn Feb 2021 #100

Works for me. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #104

Yes!!! Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #110

She should not apologize. She's nicer and more civil than anyone Trump ever had working for him. Autumn Feb 2021 #112

She should delete the verbiage in question dalton99a Feb 2021 #137

Exactly! Remember Al Franken and go fuck themselves Autumn Feb 2021 #147

+1 dalton99a Feb 2021 #134

My guess is she will apologize and then check herself going forward. She seems a decent sort. Solly Mack Feb 2021 #101

And once again... Behind the Aegis Feb 2021 #123

... Solly Mack Feb 2021 #126

Very well said MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #127

You're welcome. Solly Mack Feb 2021 #130

I cannot believe the people here that think she should resign. JanMichael Feb 2021 #115

Purification helps Republicans, not Democrats dalton99a Feb 2021 #145

oh, so someone who goes by "Reverend Doctor Jill Biden Derek Hunter" is offended? uncle ray Feb 2021 #116

For the record this is why liberals shouldn't say crap like this dsc Feb 2021 #117

I really don't care do you?? Callado119 Feb 2021 #118

I wouldn't mind hearing this apology from her Zorro Feb 2021 #119

Let us all take a moment canetoad Feb 2021 #120

+1. Jen Psaki is a friend of the LGBT community and does not deserve this kind of swiftboating. dalton99a Feb 2021 #141

She should apologize and move on MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #129

She should issue an apology. Marrah_Goodman Feb 2021 #132

Psaki is not a homophobe, and she is doing an absolutely outstanding job for Democrats. dalton99a Feb 2021 #133

Unfortunate, but hardly in the realm of the typical RW bullshit. Apologize and move on...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #135

Boo hoo. BannonsLiver Feb 2021 #138

I linked this thread to my son... NurseJackie Feb 2021 #154

My son is gay and he makes these kind of jokes about Graham Sugarcoated Feb 2021 #143

I don't see this as homophobic BruceWane Feb 2021 #148

To add to my own post..... BruceWane Feb 2021 #149

+1 nsd Feb 2021 #150

No BGBD Feb 2021 #157

Wrong TuskMoar Feb 2021 #196

Some in the LGBT community use this term as well... Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #155

If I were going to be offended Marthe48 Feb 2021 #156

Lady G has more to do with him being a client of escorts MoonlitKnight Feb 2021 #160

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Feb 2021 #161

Good. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #162

Are the gay sex workers who came up with the Lindsey nickname "Lady G" homophobes? SunSeeker Feb 2021 #170

First of all - Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #176

The link was made. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #184

I'm saying that is second hand rumor. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #187

Feminine pet names gay men give each other does not equate to the n-word. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #191

The principle is identical. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #192

No, it's not. And if Harding says he heard sex workers call Graham Lady G, how is that hearsay? SunSeeker Feb 2021 #193

He is reporting on what someone else said. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #194

No, he is asserting that he heard specific sex workers call Lindsay Graham Lady G. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #195

What they were DOING was speaking. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #198

The words are not introduced for the truth of the matter asserted. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #200

If you want to prove that a specific sex worker called Graham, Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #203

It's admissible if Graham sued Harding for defamation for saying sex workers called Lindsey Lady G. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #207

Why the hell should we believe what this guy says? cwydro Feb 2021 #206

Why would you believe Lindsey? We KNOW that guy lies. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #208

Apologize for nothing and use that Republican freedom of speech JCMach1 Feb 2021 #171

it's 'fairly viewed' that way, but not widely. mopinko Feb 2021 #202

As I've stated before, people use that as a slur all the time in posts here. cwydro Feb 2021 #204