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lildreamer316

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34. If you have not been in the industry you can't really judge it.

Tue Jan 10, 2012, 09:01 PM

Jan 2012

Sorry. I've been involved in MANY of these discussions here on DU and on other sites, as well in the real world. After much back and forth, it's kind of like those that don't really grasp what it's like to be a waiter or a bartender or cashier,etc. in the service industry. I am not saying everyone should work in the sex industry once in their lives, (although I do believe that about the service industry); but there is just SO MUCH that goes on in the subtext; so much that you can't really understand unless you work within it on a daily basis. Different people will have different experiences, but it's just not black-and-white sexual abuse and degradation. Well, it wasn't when I was in it. It can be worse now, for a long list of reasons.

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Is stripping also violence? [View all] Charlemagne Jan 2012 OP

No NathanTheGreat Jan 2012 #1

Is posing for the SI swimsuit issue violence? Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2012 #2

Stripping can be extremely violent Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #3

Only if one has issues. Burgman Jan 2012 #4

I never expected so many people wouldn't grasp the concept of metaphors. redqueen Jan 2012 #5

Umm.... zappaman Jan 2012 #7

Not all strip clubs are in bad neighborhoods. (nt) redqueen Jan 2012 #11

not all strip clubs have to have bouncers accompany women to their car n/t zappaman Jan 2012 #14

I think you might have hit on a even larger issue here.... Why aren't women safe to walk to their midnight Jan 2012 #27

If thats the case Drale Jan 2012 #8

so going to college and working at charities promotes violence. zappaman Jan 2012 #10

I'm glad we're at least addressing rape culture in general... redqueen Jan 2012 #13

stripers face more danger than other women? zappaman Jan 2012 #15

Do you do any research or reading yourself? redqueen Jan 2012 #18

but this is the point. call it what it is instead of making it pretty so there is no thought seabeyond Jan 2012 #28

It was empowering to me. lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #36

If anyone tried this shit in the club I go to they'd need an ambulance. cliffordu Jan 2012 #40

I have't been to a strip club in many years RZM Jan 2012 #50

YEP - Mine is a craptastic little neighborhood bar that cliffordu Jan 2012 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author cliffordu Jan 2012 #45

Comparing consensual stripping to rape cheapens the severity of that crime. evilkumquat Jan 2012 #6

The OP didn't compare stripping to rape, he/she said, CrispyQ Jan 2012 #25

Any association of consensual exotic dancing to rape is insulting. evilkumquat Jan 2012 #42

And what is unfortunate lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #41

It is often a financial necessity for women obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #9

The answer is our society sucks as a whole Major Nikon Jan 2012 #12

a woman stands there naked, a man clothed. man holds dollar for entertainment for her to eat. seabeyond Jan 2012 #16

Do you have access to JSTOR Charlemagne Jan 2012 #17

am i yelling? really? the man is not vulnerable. the woman is. the man taunts with a dollar seabeyond Jan 2012 #19

I didnt mean "yell" Charlemagne Jan 2012 #20

thank you. i appreciate that. i get it a lot. mad, yell, hysterical. lol. a trend. seabeyond Jan 2012 #21

They need her? redqueen Jan 2012 #22

Ill try and fish it up Charlemagne Jan 2012 #23

I will at some point. redqueen Jan 2012 #24

He's there for entertainment; she's there to make a living. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #26

if she's an adult who is not trafficked or pimped out tnvoter Jan 2012 #29

Just because you have a choice, doesn't mean you're empowered. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #30

The motivation behind MY decision to do exotic dance lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #31

I find it interesting that the DU women who are most outspoken against stripping NeedleCast Jan 2012 #67

Good point. HappyMe Jan 2012 #68

I've also noticed that you're not getting replies MineralMan Jan 2012 #69

There could be some imbalance though treestar Jan 2012 #33

Same thing could be said for any non-union construction job Taverner Jan 2012 #54

By that logic Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #64

If you can't see the difference between CrispyQ Jan 2012 #65

You said "He's there for entertainment; she's there to make a living." Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #66

She doesn't have to strip. evilkumquat Jan 2012 #43

No and we have male ones treestar Jan 2012 #32

Oh, and you know what's crazy? lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #35

And not only that, they have to keep these insane diets Taverner Jan 2012 #39

hmm, the 3 or so times i saw male strippers, we weren't allowed to touch them... Scout Jan 2012 #56

Oh, I'm not saying lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #59

If you have not been in the industry you can't really judge it. lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #34

thanks for your two posts. seabeyond Jan 2012 #37

Oh goodness. lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #46

i think i have heard a lot of this before. i dont know if it is reading seabeyond Jan 2012 #47

Yes, you've hit on it exactly. lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #58

ya. seabeyond Jan 2012 #61

Aw Jeez...not this shit again... Taverner Jan 2012 #38

Absolutely! evilkumquat Jan 2012 #44

Agreed. Women should be able to make money any way they want. Taverner Jan 2012 #52

geez tav, it gets old you making up your own argument and then yelling it out. seabeyond Jan 2012 #53

Just sick of the puritanism - And that is what they are saying, between the lines Taverner Jan 2012 #57

no tav, that is not what they are saying. again, you are making up your argument seabeyond Jan 2012 #60

ah, "sex-negative" ... DU's favorite, false accusation.... Scout Jan 2012 #48

If you have a problem with sex, you have a problem with yourself Taverner Jan 2012 #51

here you are again, making up shit about someone you dont know then lecturing what she needs to do seabeyond Jan 2012 #55

*I* don't have a problem with sex... Scout Jan 2012 #63

Yeah, pretty much everything is violence, tabasco Jan 2012 #49