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80. Dominion Voting Systems

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 03:29 PM

Oct 2012

Could they have picked a more interesting name?
I guess they could have opted for "You Vote, We Decide" or "All Your Votes Belong to Us."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems
In May 2010, Dominion acquired Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold Election Systems) from Election Systems & Software (ES&S). ES&S had just acquired PES from Diebold and was required to sell off PES by the United States Department of Justice for anti-trust concerns.
In June 2010, Dominion acquired Sequoia Voting Systems. The two acquisitions expanded Dominion significantly. With the acquisitions the company moved its headquarters to Denver.[3]

Also interesting that they are pushing to sell Palm Beach a new system "that Dominion says will make such errors less likely." Note I had to read umpteen paragraphs in a story in which Dominion blamed the issues on the election department to get to that tidbit.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/post-watchdog-read-the-manual-firm-says-about-well/nN2p8/

Thanks for keeping on this, Land Shark.

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Florida Election software Flips Vote: Losers Certified as Winners [View all] Land Shark Oct 2012 OP

Sheesh! This should be national news. nt 2 Much Tribulation Oct 2012 #1

+1 hrmjustin Oct 2012 #77

Unbelievable that it's not. go west young man Oct 2012 #120

I don't think the owners of the media like to talk about such things. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #121

It should have been national news in 2004 too... joycejnr Oct 2012 #103

Republicans care about every conceivable security breech except for e-voting Tom Rinaldo Oct 2012 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2012 #3

Holder wouldn't give a crap unless the machines were caught smoking pot. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #27

Couldn't have... thc420 Oct 2012 #51

Holder is one of the BIGGEST disappointments of the Obama Administration. bvar22 Oct 2012 #147

He was "supposed to be" investigating election fraud in Florida, but citizens found it instead. robinlynne Oct 2012 #52

Isn't this a crime??? tblue Oct 2012 #139

yes it is. robinlynne Oct 2012 #140

When are going to just let sixth graders count the vote as a civic duty. hootinholler Oct 2012 #4

That sounds like a wonderful idea! BlueCaliDem Oct 2012 #55

Newt should agree SCVDem Oct 2012 #62

~lol CrispyQ Oct 2012 #81

With ONE difference . . . they're not working BlueCaliDem Oct 2012 #105

Plus it teaches them they can't really trust 'grown-ups' to always do the right thing. hootinholler Oct 2012 #90

This is important. Spread this around. 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #5

Video... YvonneCa Oct 2012 #17

I want to know the stats Liberal Gramma Oct 2012 #6

k&r. k&r. K&R! robinlynne Oct 2012 #7

This Too Scary!!! ChiciB1 Oct 2012 #8

I would send this to TRM show! n/t arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #9

That is not a software error. That's an intentional program! Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #10

prefuckingcisely pnwest Oct 2012 #28

Absolutely! LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #47

Yes. Computers don't do anything they are not programmed to do. KeepItReal Oct 2012 #85

As an accomplished programmer (retired), I absolutely agree. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #91

Thank you. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #102

! Barack_America Oct 2012 #143

Thanks. I could write an essay on the idiocy of claiming such behavior is a "bug." TahitiNut Oct 2012 #151

Please do. You can start by disassembling the vendor "explanations" at this link Land Shark Oct 2012 #158

Not necessary: From the article:"In other words, it wasn't a bug, it was a feature." TahitiNut Oct 2012 #180

Thanks, tho you still deserve an OP treatment of your points here nt Land Shark Oct 2012 #188

I second the request to please explain this in an OP. Barack_America Oct 2012 #172

If it could happen once, and if it could happen here ... lpbk2713 Oct 2012 #11

How do you think Bush won in 2000??? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #59

Once again, EVERY POS and ATM in the country produces a paper receipt... HopeHoops Oct 2012 #12

Amen! But who is listening? NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #33

Nobody. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #38

While a paper "receipt" is better, it's still not enough, IMHO. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #92

Well, if the voter receipt matches the rolling paper in the machine (through a window),... HopeHoops Oct 2012 #94

Paper ballots that can be hand counted. RC Oct 2012 #95

The sad thing is that they COULD be accurate AND trustworthy. They just aren't. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #137

Hand counted paper ballots, in and of themselves, ARE trustworthy, but more is... Land Shark Oct 2012 #138

That lack of evidence is by design. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #141

True (with regard to computerized vote counting, which is inherently secret vote counting) Land Shark Oct 2012 #142

That's something else I don't understand. RC Oct 2012 #168

we DO NOT need to know the winner by 10pm EST or so. That being said... Land Shark Oct 2012 #169

Well, I posted this elsewhere, but I'll post it again. I think we need at least a 2-week window. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #175

Then why laundry_queen Oct 2012 #181

DUers need to read this and get it up high on the greatest page. This is what will determine the re robinlynne Oct 2012 #13

K and R titaniumsalute Oct 2012 #21

this BS happened when bush won & the bastards still are going to do this again ! april Oct 2012 #14

And that's what happens when they get away with it! rock Oct 2012 #79

Every four years, this becomes an issue. dotymed Oct 2012 #131

Exactly. This is how Bush was crowned in 2000 and 2004. ywcachieve Oct 2012 #93

This concerns me greatly. Delphinus Oct 2012 #15

Kick! brindis_desala Oct 2012 #16

This is why exit polling is no longer used... Bandit Oct 2012 #18

Scary indeed! K&R classof56 Oct 2012 #19

Kick & recommended. William769 Oct 2012 #20

Democrats have probably been winning for YEARS. Matariki Oct 2012 #22

I suspect this greatly nt flamingdem Oct 2012 #44

The only Democrats who win now OnyxCollie Oct 2012 #88

DECADES! Ohio was solid BLUE before punch card voting made it too easy to fix elections Coyotl Oct 2012 #132

double K&R defacto7 Oct 2012 #23

It would be interesting to see all the states refusing the Fed test. FedUpWithIt All Oct 2012 #24

How is that even possible? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2012 #56

It was implemented as a "voluntary" program. FedUpWithIt All Oct 2012 #75

Because the Constitution says so in Article II jberryhill Oct 2012 #126

Actually, feds have de facto control of state elections because... Land Shark Oct 2012 #130

Yes, there is also the voting rights act jberryhill Oct 2012 #179

K & R AzDar Oct 2012 #25

And so it begins. lalalu Oct 2012 #26

I go to the Brad Blog LittleGirl Oct 2012 #29

Exactly right. Paper. Brad has fabulous election fraud info on his site. valerief Oct 2012 #43

Indeed he should be on the news every night LittleGirl Oct 2012 #69

Oops, maybe I was thinking of Current but it should have been RT. nt valerief Oct 2012 #74

paper is not enough. garybeck Oct 2012 #154

Audits must be ANNOUNCED b/c they're legal requirements, so fraudsters can always work around Land Shark Oct 2012 #157

what are your thoughts on this? garybeck Oct 2012 #161

I encourage you, YET no audit provides REASSURANCE of election accuracy Land Shark Oct 2012 #166

I agree, but... garybeck Oct 2012 #170

There are no "good" audits, but some are better than others Land Shark Oct 2012 #171

Paper, meaning JUST paper. No machines. nt valerief Oct 2012 #167

Brad Blog is an incredible resource marions ghost Oct 2012 #72

Kicking. Very important story that needs as much visability as possible. Whovian Oct 2012 #30

Kick! JimDandy Oct 2012 #31

This happens every voting season. Stevepol Oct 2012 #32

in theory, local election boards are responsible and should want to make sure they are counting the NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #36

this was only caught because there were paper ballots NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #34

I witnessed a DRE flipping votes in Florida in 2004... Sancho Oct 2012 #35

how can people not care? NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #39

Short of armed revolution? Doubt it. nt valerief Oct 2012 #42

We've complained, some have gone to court... Sancho Oct 2012 #127

The reality is that if we stop one form of election fraud, the GOP will always invent another one. factsarenotfair Oct 2012 #37

I'm sure he is not NoMoreWarNow Oct 2012 #40

Like we haven't known this since HAVA started!!!! nt valerief Oct 2012 #41

What if anything can we do? flamingdem Oct 2012 #46

Short of armed revolution, I don't know. nt valerief Oct 2012 #50

I have some gardening tools .. nt flamingdem Oct 2012 #54

Congress has plenty of hoes. valerief Oct 2012 #57

o m g flamingdem Oct 2012 #82

find your state's election integrity organization and get active. garybeck Oct 2012 #162

Most likely this is the tip of the iceberg--has happened unknown # of times! hue Oct 2012 #45

At some point the game will end. You can see it coming. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #48

When I use Excel or a database LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #49

Likewise. It is really easy to self-check programming in Excel. Coyotl Oct 2012 #133

OK, preparing to move to Canada. elleng Oct 2012 #53

Voter suppression has begun up here too! MAD Dave Oct 2012 #116

Will keep my eyes on things up north, MAD, elleng Oct 2012 #118

VA uses these machines.....my ATM prints a picture of my check..... Gin Oct 2012 #58

Posted at FaceBook. elleng Oct 2012 #60

May I add that the federal program which oversees the federal cerification is staffed robinlynne Oct 2012 #61

Full support? SCVDem Oct 2012 #68

more support than I have ever seen for a US president since John Kennedy. How's that? robinlynne Oct 2012 #119

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #63

I don't know... DirtyDawg Oct 2012 #64

K&R louslobbs Oct 2012 #65

"software error" Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #66

I'm sure it's really an "error" too. tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #67

The Solution To This Problem Is So Simple Z_California Oct 2012 #70

Of course this is only meaningful if you can see who you voted for. JackRiddler Oct 2012 #113

If I and I alone... Z_California Oct 2012 #150

Thousands, literally, see their vote flipped, but they seem reassured b/c thinking they "Caught it" Land Shark Oct 2012 #155

yikes MerryBlooms Oct 2012 #71

OK it's time to DO SOMETHING about electronic voting machines Blue Owl Oct 2012 #73

K & R nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2012 #76

K&R idwiyo Oct 2012 #78

Dominion Voting Systems suffragette Oct 2012 #80

Dominion? flamingdem Oct 2012 #83

Way suffragette Oct 2012 #182

Is it a hint? flamingdem Oct 2012 #184

Dominion = Diebold + Sequoia? Mc Mike Oct 2012 #125

and don't forget, for a few months in there, Diebold/Premier was owned by ESS. garybeck Oct 2012 #164

Great points Gary suffragette Oct 2012 #183

You mean the Urosevich brothers are sharing info, or in-fighting? nt. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #186

This is why Florida should never be considered in Dem electoral projections. aquart Oct 2012 #84

A top computer guy who does stuff for the Defense Department said: DFW Oct 2012 #86

Very true quote! 2 Much Tribulation Oct 2012 #89

Are you saying that voting machines have a cellular radio in them? Flatulo Oct 2012 #107

I have no idea what the tech side is to that DFW Oct 2012 #109

Yes many of these computerized voting machines have wireless ports Land Shark Oct 2012 #110

I know how election fraud will finally be addressed and corrected... Kurovski Oct 2012 #112

k&r nt steve2470 Oct 2012 #87

I wondered how Reek Scott got elected- secondvariety Oct 2012 #96

Reek Scott!! Good one! Zalatix Oct 2012 #108

What foreigners will think of America... JackN415 Oct 2012 #97

That Americans invented voting machines to fix overseas elections, of course Coyotl Oct 2012 #134

Oh... theKed Oct 2012 #135

Flori-fuckin-duh Daniel537 Oct 2012 #98

Hindsight will show Jakes Progress Oct 2012 #99

This IS the ticking time bomb. Also 19 States now NOT doing EXIT POLLS??? WTF? 99th_Monkey Oct 2012 #100

Kicking, and encouraging dissemination EVERYWHERE! elleng Oct 2012 #101

K&R!!! KansDem Oct 2012 #104

There's also an absentee ballot fiasco in Palm Beach County. hay rick Oct 2012 #106

Those 60,000 votes from Palm Beach county FlaGranny Oct 2012 #129

Kick please glinda Oct 2012 #111

ok, here's your kick. ;) Land Shark Oct 2012 #114

... glinda Oct 2012 #123

These kind of reports make me sick to my stomach and causes sleep problems. Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #115

Is Obama behind the story? RobertEarl Oct 2012 #117

The courts need to step in and tell Florida to clean their mess up davidpdx Oct 2012 #122

These are nationwide RobertEarl Oct 2012 #124

Can anyone find a way Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #128

K&R Jamastiene Oct 2012 #136

Way past time to make voting machines as secure as ATM's...it's a joke passing as democracy. nt mother earth Oct 2012 #144

ATMs produce cash that if you do NOT hand count it, you're a fool Land Shark Oct 2012 #146

There has to be an audit trail, but certainly the paper ballots are best, the polls are tools, mother earth Oct 2012 #178

if you want to change it, pay attention to your Secretary of State elections. NuttyFluffers Oct 2012 #145

Chicken and egg nolabels Oct 2012 #149

not really.... garybeck Oct 2012 #153

Sec of State Debra Bowen was key to getting CA back from play. NuttyFluffers Oct 2012 #187

yes I acknowledge Bowen for sure, but let me ask you.... garybeck Oct 2012 #190

Problem is, SOS Bowen exposed many (not all) problems, AND KEPT THE COMPUTERIZED SYSTEMS Land Shark Oct 2012 #193

We have paper ballots Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #194

that's not enough. garybeck Oct 2012 #195

DREs are only for disabled voters who explicitly choose to vote that way NuttyFluffers Oct 2012 #197

what kind of machines are they using there? garybeck Oct 2012 #148

Sequoia (now Dominion) optical scan systems, 2% audits (officials sure all errors NOT caught) Land Shark Oct 2012 #152

thanks. so let me get this straight.... Diebold, ESS, Premier, Dominion..... all the same....? garybeck Oct 2012 #159

After a flurry of recent mergers/divestitures, Dominion dominates as follows Land Shark Oct 2012 #163

during the brief period that ESS owned Diebold/Permier, don't you think they would have garybeck Oct 2012 #196

This could so easily be solved, and the trust of the voters restored Not Me Oct 2012 #156

Except this suggestion wouldn't, in fact, work Land Shark Oct 2012 #160

K&R n/t myrna minx Oct 2012 #165

Thanks to all for keeping this thread kicked. nt Land Shark Oct 2012 #173

I could have detected this problem with statistics BEFORE the election was certified. fchoquette Oct 2012 #174

+1 for extra analysis Land Shark Oct 2012 #177

Software error my round butt. PDJane Oct 2012 #176

Bring cameras, cell phones tessar Oct 2012 #185

Interesting how a few states are trying to make polling places camera-free Land Shark Oct 2012 #189

Cameras and cell phones cant take a picture of the vote counting when it takes place garybeck Oct 2012 #191

+1 Land Shark Oct 2012 #192