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WestMichRad

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32. Well stated. Also...

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:19 AM

Feb 2021

I think what we're seeing is that impeachment is an insufficient constitutional remedy for holding the President accountable. It doesn't work when corruption has infiltrated the government as deeply as is currently the case.

Don't know what the remedy for this might be. Allowing conviction of an impeached officer with a mere majority of Senators would enable abuse of this mechanism.

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I'm seeing an interesting but unfortunate phenomenon repeat itself here re: impeachment [View all] StarfishSaver Feb 2021 OP

No moving goalposts from me. I've consistently said Dems should have formed a committee. servermsh Feb 2021 #1

That's a good point DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #4

I'd like to think that dems and some gop in congress are doing what they need to do as wiggs Feb 2021 #41

Why do you think the Senate committees won't conduct investigations? StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #21

Impeachment Rule XI allows for an impeachment committee to take evidence servermsh Feb 2021 #31

I stand corrected on the rule StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #38

I hope they don't. We need to get stuff done by 22 or we are going to lose. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #53

Excellent post. Right on the mark. DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #2

K&R betsuni Feb 2021 #3

K&R greatauntoftriplets Feb 2021 #5

Well said Tom Rinaldo Feb 2021 #6

His despicable behavior needed to be etched in granite for all of history bullwinkle428 Feb 2021 #7

Sure but the follow up could be ...they win in 22 or 24 or both. We need to show we can govern. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #54

When you say... SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #8

Where was that stated or implied? niyad Feb 2021 #16

I the first and second paragraphs. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Feb 2021 #64

Exactly! Boomer Feb 2021 #37

Monday Morning quarterbacking is not just a thing in sports... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #9

His first impeachment trial had a bipartisan vote to convict Maeve Feb 2021 #10

I don't understand why they're not telling the stories of the injured police. rainin Feb 2021 #11

And who are "they"? There's YouTube videos of Plaskett, Cicillene and Castro doing just that. ancianita Feb 2021 #18

House Managers. They've chosen to not have witnesses, but they could still tell rainin Feb 2021 #49

They interviewed two on camera, the one who suffered a heart attack after being tased, and ancianita Feb 2021 #50

Exactly StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #59

... ancianita Feb 2021 #60

Not true! Again, accusing other Dems of things that aren't true. Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #12

I totally agree, gab13by13 Feb 2021 #15

Applaud your free thinking! There's some kind of irony in Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #20

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! to you, Tom and to SS. MFGsunny Feb 2021 #13

Very well stated! SheltieLover Feb 2021 #14

I am immensely proud of how our Dems have been handling this process. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #17

KNR, with deepest thanks. niyad Feb 2021 #19

It. IS. True. flibbitygiblets Feb 2021 #22

And it goes beyond "if only" StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #24

It's tiresome, indeed. ancianita Feb 2021 #61

Well, DU is a forum. And by its nature, people discuss things as new Politicub Feb 2021 #23

Agreed. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #27

There's a difference between "I think they should have" and "It was stupid of them not to" StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #29

Oops, forgot and " neither is acceptable" Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #43

There is no pending election and this case involved murder on camera zaj Feb 2021 #26

There is a huge difference between the last impeachment and this one, though. PatrickforO Feb 2021 #28

Yes! StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #30

Well stated. Also... WestMichRad Feb 2021 #32

People don't know how the process works IronLionZion Feb 2021 #33

Well said. Both impeachments and trials were necessary and Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2021 #34

So right! A lot of us aren't lawyers FakeNoose Feb 2021 #35

Agree, just the beginning of exploration of this issue. Many trials of conspirators to come, much wiggs Feb 2021 #39

Never underestimate the great knowledge of the Constitution and Congress mcar Feb 2021 #36

I think a lot of people think a "conviction" means he is going to jail... kentuck Feb 2021 #40

The most that could happen is that he would be disqualified from running again StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #42

And I'm not sure that would be best for Democrats. kentuck Feb 2021 #44

I will never say it's better if he runs StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #45

He lost by 7 mil BEFORE January 6th. But don't you think GOP Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #52

Links ? Accusing people of expecting conviction? Not fair Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #46

Well said StarfishSaver. We should all remember the Reagan rule - never criticize the people c-rational Feb 2021 #47

+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 2 AmyStrange Feb 2021 #48

I was luke warm on impeachment both times. He was never getting convicted. I hope Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #51

Why do you feel the need to chastise posters on rusty fender Feb 2021 #55

I Don't Believe Your Strawman Ever Existed Within The Ranks Of Democrats DallasNE Feb 2021 #56

Ditto Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #62

More pessimistic angrychair Feb 2021 #57

That is exactly spot on AC!!! Why are these jurisdictions Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #63

Right. I have seen the same. Yes, I noticed that. LizBeth Feb 2021 #58

KnR Hekate Feb 2021 #65