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colsohlibgal

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30. Totally

Reply to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 05:19 PM

Feb 2021

If you are a Democrat be one, not a Republican lite.Give me AOC not Joe Manchin.

IMHO the whole spectrum has moved rightward since Reagan.....who did egregious damage in his 8 years.

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Being a 'moderate' Democrat is a losing strategy [View all] Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 OP

I agree to a point Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #1

Oh yeah, agree Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #3

I agree, my thoughts as well. The GOP lite strategy does not seem like a winning strategy. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #2

democrats today. all moderates. blazingly, glaringly, stunningly moderate. bullimiami Feb 2021 #4

yes Celerity Feb 2021 #67

All politics is local DFW Feb 2021 #5

"all politics is local" is an old outdated saying Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #8

$15 bucks an hour is a national imperative and not by 2025 but right now. Magoo48 Feb 2021 #43

Agree..it is very local and your examples prove it Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #25

This could be a really interesting analysis using actual Dream Girl Feb 2021 #6

Well Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #11

That would be false. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #7

Thank you.. I was just going to say that .. so +1000 Peacetrain Feb 2021 #10

Thank you I was going to say just this. redstatebluegirl Feb 2021 #21

Of course you are correct. The OP would have us turn both AZ Senate seats grantcart Feb 2021 #60

You're so right! & why do so many IGNORE Cha Feb 2021 #71

There are many more moderate Dems than you are assuming, Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #9

people want to see results Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #13

And yet the Democratic Party hold the WH, House and Senate. Indeed OnDoutside Feb 2021 #37

Post removed Post removed Feb 2021 #17

The source of your frustration maybe is Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #28

more complex than that. will return later with my thoughts NRaleighLiberal Feb 2021 #31

+1000 Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #85

☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #26

If those left of center get even some of what they want Bettie Feb 2021 #29

If you jettison moderates you get minority status. This nothing. GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #32

I said nothing about jettisoning Moderates unless Bettie Feb 2021 #36

I get you. But moderates in a tight Senate can call the shots. GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #41

Whether we like it or not, Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #46

Right. And every time it comes up here it becomes a moderate vs leftist democrats fight. GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #48

I am not a moderate, either, Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #51

Yep. I just responded to the OP saying the same. GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #53

So, abandon all hope of Bettie Feb 2021 #50

Do you think that Biden is abandoning hope? Big Blue Marble Feb 2021 #55

We won't make progress. We never do...we move left and we lose more policy Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #78

Which is what is happening to the GOP. OnDoutside Feb 2021 #40

I absolutely disagree that republican constituents wouldn't vote for a democrat. Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #12

Not disagreeing that some republicans voted for a democrat, but Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #15

I don't see that at all. Democrats here are pretty savvy. I think that's bc we have to deal Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #22

Well Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #24

I sure hope so too. I plan on being on the front lines to help make that happen. Vivienne235729 Feb 2021 #34

A good starting point for this conversation would be to define "moderate". Caliman73 Feb 2021 #14

Point taken Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #20

Nothing wrong with that. My dad was a moderate Democrat safeinOhio Feb 2021 #16

Someone should tell Biden that. nt cry baby Feb 2021 #18

A liberal candidate running for Senate in Mi last year would most likely have lost Kaleva Feb 2021 #19

Reading this thread for the 1st time - seemed like a number here never really empedocles Feb 2021 #27

Is situational in my experience. GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #33

In 2020 every right winger crawled out from under their rocks Bettie Feb 2021 #38

Agree completely DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #23

OK and they lose if they don't vote to protect their seats. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #45

They lose by trying to protect their seats Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #75

Just because a Democrat is moderate* mcar Feb 2021 #73

Totally colsohlibgal Feb 2021 #30

Yeah, try running AOC in WV. You know what you get? Majority Leader McConnell. GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #35

BTW, my OP wasn't about states or districts like WV Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #84

Not in a red or purple district...too bad the more populous states don't get more Senators but Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #42

We tried that in 10 and 14 and what did we get? We lost the Senate. I heard agreement Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #44

Huge repeating point. empedocles Feb 2021 #47

That's because there are more conservatives treestar Feb 2021 #62

Democrats in red and purple states are moderate themselves in most cases which is why Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #39

Lord. NurseJackie Feb 2021 #49

Right on time, it seems mcar Feb 2021 #74

Every time DU gets into this Moderate vs Leftist squabble we ignore the 30% of independent voters! GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #52

How Biden Eked Out His 2020 Win Gothmog Feb 2021 #61

Biden won because the people who voted for Obama (mostly black people) Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #64

Read the article Gothmog Feb 2021 #68

You win by bringing out your base Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #65

Most independents are not actually independent Bettie Feb 2021 #77

Mr. Google gets you what you want to read. The algorithm insures it. GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #79

Fine. I'm done Bettie Feb 2021 #81

I'm no moderate. I'm a social democrat. I look to France and Germany for models GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #82

We cleaned up and then most of them lost reelection either the next election or the one after Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #83

How do you imagine we won the House in 2018? brooklynite Feb 2021 #54

You certainly fail to support any of your conclusions with objective data or evidence. LanternWaste Feb 2021 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Feb 2021 #58

I noticed that also Gothmog Feb 2021 #59

You are wrong Gothmog Feb 2021 #57

you kind of contradict yourself Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #63

your attempt at analysis is amusing Gothmog Feb 2021 #66

lol Proud liberal 80 Feb 2021 #69

How many progressive Democrats have won in swing states/purple districts? mcar Feb 2021 #70

It completely depends on the territory. SlogginThroughIt Feb 2021 #72

You are incorrect. MineralMan Feb 2021 #76

To add another point, primarying a sitting elected official isn't poison. Gore1FL Feb 2021 #80

I can't make sense of this. betsuni Feb 2021 #86

I agree that people want to see results TheFarseer Feb 2021 #87

Disagree with the OP Willto Feb 2021 #88